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First, the issue being discussed is support of Israel based on a non-Jewish religious ideology. I don't know of any Christians who oppose Israel as part of a religious ideology. There is no "Christian left" as a religiously-oriented political force.

I guess since you have never heard of these people they must not exist!

Second, I oppose some of Israel's policies. But I don't think of myself as anti-Israeli. I am a Zionist and a firm supporter of Israel's existence as a Jewish state. Should a non-Jewish American who has similar political views about Israel be considered anti-Israeli? I don't think so.
Clearly, some opponents of Israel are anti-Israeli (and some even anti-Jewish). Trying to figure out that difference is a vexing problem for all of us. Maybe you have some criteria? For the most part, I would say that opposition that is not factually based could lead anyone to believe that the person who makes such statements is anti-Israeli or even a Jew-hater. Elan, you've done an eloquent job arguing against such factually-impaired people. What do you think they are?

Going back to the "issue being discussed" (as you put it), I am just looking for some consistence. If someone is making a statement that "Christian Zionists" or religious conservatives are somehow bad for Israel, then maybe similar analysis should be done on religious (or non-religious) leftists. Is that too much to ask?

Ron
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