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<<You know, Catleen, I think my problem is that I keep on driving Fords. My Escort is at 106K miles, and already starting to make those noises that cause good mechanics to recommend trading 'er in QUICK while she still runs...

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I've had people complain that Ford Taurus's develope major problems prematurely. Aside from exploding Pinto gas tanks, what are people's opinions on Ford cars?



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This subject brings up such BAD experiences for me. I drove a Ford Taurus for three years and every three months I had a problem with the car. It was like clock work. I hated that car but I could not afford to get another one because I was still in college, that car caused me so many problems it is not funny. I was stranded in every place you could name. I think everything in that car was changed and it still was not reliable.

My friend also had a ford and she constantly had transmission problems she had other things as well but mainly transmission problems

I will never buy a Ford,
Never Never Never
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Well, almost all we've ever owned are Fords...one was a Mercury (??same thing??) We drive about 400 miles a week, so mileage is always high on our vehicles.

When we first married, my husband had a Ford Elite. It was in mint condition until I took over as the primary driver. Only "eye sore" during my reign at the wheel was a bite one of the horses took out of the vinyl top ( Lesson learned - never to leave vehicles unattended around horses). A year later it jumped time and we had it repaired then sold it to get a new Ford truck to pull the horse trailer.

The '85 Ford F150 truck was a gem. Had it 4 years, then decided we needed a car for a growing family. Couldn't get what it was worth to us, so decided to keep it another year while saving for a down payment on a car. Had brand new tires put on it that Friday...the next Friday totalled it. BOO HOO! But we did get a more from the ins. than we could on trade, so it worked out well.

That's when we got a brand new '88 Ford Taurus (program car). It ran great...but after 3 years the paint started to go. By 1994 the paint was all but a memory. (Lesson learned - don't buy a gray car no matter how much the salesman says they've improved the paint!) (And yes, I did contact Ford and complain...the response I got? "Thank you for reporting this, we alway like to know about such things.")

1995 we purchased a '95 Ford Thunderbird (Black) program car. Had trouble with the breaks, but after 4 trips to the selling dealer for free repairs that didn't last, paid over $300 at another dealer to have them fixed right - never another problem with them. Okay, another lesson learned - the black paint was of the same quality as the gray paint - it started to go after 4 years.

1999 we were finally able to afford the SUV I'd always wanted (ever since the Explorer's were put on the market!). Ended up with a 1997 Mountaineer - it was wonderful! But then hydraplaned and totalled it after only 5 months of ownership. BOO HOO!!!!

We currently own a 99' Explorer (program car) - I miss the Mountaineer, but I do enjoy the better gas mileage. The only complaint - the engine rattle that Ford seems unable to cure (3rd trip in for a fix, and it still comes back!)

So, all in all, our primary complaint with Fords have been regarding paint. If the paint goes on this one, I think we're going to try a Chevy....
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Personally, I would have given up on Fords long before this... But I am a Toyota driver.

Catleen
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Oh, yeah...we have a 1965 Ford F100 pick-up also (How could I forget!). Since we've owned it (16 years) the engine has been rebuilt once. From 1989 through 2000 we used it to pull the horse trailer. (Horse shows around here are every Saturday, from March till Sept.) It's been a gem, too.
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Back in 1997, my husband and I purchased a 1996 used Saturn. That same week my mom purchased a 1996 Ford Taurus. Here is what has happened since:

The Saturn:

We have blown 3 tires - all road hazard situations.
4 trips to mom this last year
Car still gets 40-45 mpg
Lesson learned: Don't drive in Utah when they are getting the Olympics in 3 years.

The Ford:

Brakes replaced 3 times
All 4 tires replaced - 1998
Fuel Filter replaced -1999
Air conditioning replaced - 2000
Car won't start
battery replaced -2000
alternator replaced - 2000
starter replaced - 2000
car still won't start - 2000
total tune-up and some more replaced parts - 2000
car finally starts - 2000
Gray paint is peeling - 2001
Car overheats -2001
Mom won't come visit me in Denver (8 hours away) because she feels her car isn't reliable enough - 2001
Mom is looking for a new car - 2001

Lesson learned: Don't buy a Ford Taurus

I have had friends who have had great luck with Ford Mustangs though - so maybe it is just the Taurus that is cursed
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I've owned Ford cars three times (including the current one), Toyotas twice, and Volkswagen and Chevrolet once each. This is over a long span of time, so the experiences are not necessarily comparable.

One of the Toyotas was the longest-lived (and the only one ever to be stolen for parts, when it was nine years old), but I didn't replace either of the two previous Fords because of wear or mechanical failure. I totaled one in a collision, and replaced the other one, a Mustang, because my work required a car with four doors.

The Chevrolet was the worst car of the bunch, prone to stalling in intersections if it started at all, and the dealer never managed to fix the engine problem. The Volkswagen Golf was the car I liked best, but it was also nearly impossible to keep running.
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I bought a 1990 Ford Taurus a few years ago with 95,000 miles on it. I drove it 60 miles one-way to work until recently with virtually no problems. It now has 197,000 miles on it and was passed on to my college-age daughter who is STILL driving it.

I bought a 1994 Ford Taurus this year with 97,000 miles on it. I've been driving it for four months or so with no problems.

Before that, I had a 1989 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera that I purchased at 43,000 miles. I drive it to over 100,000, then passed it onto my daughter. It met its demise not through any problem with the car, but with her irresponsibility.

Before that, I drove a 1985 Buick Regal that gave me 140,000 miles of trouble-free service. That car was never towed. Even when there was a problem, it limped home. I was a single mother at that time and that was very important to me, not to be stuck alone somewhere.

I got off the Ford topic, but these last two Taurus' just seem to run and run and run....
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I forgot also. We have an older 1988 Ford truck with 153,000 miles on it that has no problems.

We also have a new 2001 Ford truck for our horse trailer with all the bells and whistles and it runs great also.

We are committed Ford people. We have had excellent service with them.
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No problem with our 1943 Ford 9N tractor,
except the muffler fell off recently, but hey, ya gotta expect that. She's an old gal and things like that happen.
You buy old, you fix.

I married the right person for fixing things.

:-0)
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<<So, all in all, our primary complaint with Fords have been regarding paint. If the paint goes on this one, I think we're going to try a Chevy.... >>


Paint? I thought you were going to complain about the penchent of Fords to run into other fixed or moving objects!



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Aside from exploding Pinto gas tanks, what are people's opinions on Ford cars?

My father owned a Mustang in the late sixties. After countless mechanical problems he swore it would be the last Ford he ever owned. In the eighties he reconsidered, swayed by the "Quality is job 1" ad campaign. He figured they had had twenty years to get their act together, so he bought me a Mustang.

After countless mechanical problems we both swore it would be the last Ford either one of us ever own.

P.S. I just took my Honda Accord for its 175k mile tune up. It's still running like a champ.
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<<So, all in all, our primary complaint with Fords have been regarding paint. If the paint goes on this one, I think we're going to try a Chevy.... >>


Paint? I thought you were going to complain about the penchent of Fords to run into other fixed or moving objects!

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Ha ha. (hmmm...was that a hit on me or Ford?...) But I can just hear their response to that one! "Thank you for reporting this, we like to know these things so that we can increase production for the upswing in sales that can be expected for replacement vehicles."

I've just been reading over the other posts and seems Taurus is really getting knocked hard. Well, the Taurus we had ran fine. The only mechanical work we ever had done to it (other than normal maintenance) was replace the alternator once. The car had about 254,000 miles (and no paint) when we traded it for the T'bird, but it still ran fine. Obviously the quality has declined since we owned ours.
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Aside from exploding Pinto gas tanks, what are people's opinions on Ford cars?



Seattle Pioneer


I love my Ranger but at 13 years and 67000 miles it probably needs to go before it costs big bucks to keep driveable. I also had an Escort (88) that took a lot of abuse and kept on driving. OTOH, I wouldn't touch a Taurus after some of the things I heard about 6 years ago. Nothing really specific just rumors. We test drove a 92 Escort that had a burning oil smell that the dealer tried to tell us was "normal". We bought a Saturn instead. At that time, Escorts were assembled in Mexico. I don't trust their quality control. A friend's mother swears by their Aerostar van. She and her husband are both handicapped and the van is one of the few vehicles they can get both their wheelchairs and walkers in. I think it was modified for only hand controls.

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digrat >>Back in 1997, my husband and I purchased a 1996 used Saturn.

My 92 Saturn went through 3 alternators, an engine rebuild and chronic fan problems before we had had enough. Even my 76 Mazda that got 100 miles/quart oil had fewer chronic problems.

Debora
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<<Paint? I thought you were going to complain about the penchent of Fords to run into other fixed or moving objects!

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Ha ha. (hmmm...was that a hit on me or Ford?...) But I can just hear their response to that one! "Thank you for reporting this, we like to know these things so that we can increase production for the upswing in sales that can be expected for replacement vehicles."

I've just been reading over the other posts and seems Taurus is really getting knocked hard. Well, the Taurus we had ran fine. The only mechanical work we ever had done to it (other than normal maintenance) was replace the alternator once. The car had about 254,000 miles (and no paint) when we traded it for the T'bird, but it still ran fine. Obviously the quality has declined since we owned ours.
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What I get from this thread is that some Fords, and some particular models, run fine and some don't. This would appear to mean that they make cars with a lot of variability in how well they run --- you may get and excellent car or you may get a lemon.


They are saddling their customers with a substantial amount of risk.



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Our 1991 Explorer went through 3 transmission replacements. The first two were done by a Ford dealership, but the last one was replaced by a different shop. The door front door locks both broke. The radiator had to be replaced early. The air conditioner had major repairs. There were other repairs, but those were the most costly.
Now we have a Toyota Sienna van, and hope it is a LTBH!
Personally, think we will stick to Toyotas and Hondas from now on.

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I have to agree with you here. I had a Honda that didn't cause any problems and finally died. My Toyota keeps chugging along.

Catleen
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What are people's opinions on Ford cars?

Seattle,

My brother has a Ford "Exploder" that has been through three transmissions and my Mom's Escort goes through brakes about every six months. I've also heard from a reliable source at a transmission shop that the Taurus keeps them in business.

Me personally, I wouldn't mind having a '65 Fastback Mustang with a 289 HP, the original alloys and the Pony interior.

Bret


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My mom had a 90 Taurus that required some major transmission work before it died again last year. She was never really happy with that car because something was always breaking. She ended up leasing a new Ford Focus which is a pretty nifty car, but I suppose all new cars are(I wouldn't know).

I have a 90 escort that I will drive into the ground despite protests from my wife. It has run well for me, but it's starting to show its age, or develop 'character' as I like to say. My only complaint is that the front end has needed more work than seems normal. I've had a few major repairs to keep it going, but over the long run it's been very reliable and the body is still holding up.


I'm not sure if Fords are any better or worse than other cars out there. I bought the Escort only because I was able to get a good deal on it used. The hatchback has been a major workhorse for me during two moves and is very convenient in general.
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I've had people complain that Ford Taurus's develope major problems prematurely. Aside from exploding Pinto gas tanks, what are people's opinions on Ford cars?

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She ended up leasing a new Ford Focus which is a pretty nifty car, but I suppose all new cars are(I wouldn't know).

I had my eye on either a Ford Focus or a Toyota Echo for about a year. When both were brand new, both were getting rave reviews - they have a very similar, innovative design (though they are very small, they have spacious interiors). Consumer Reports loved the Focus when it first came out. The cars were comparable in terms of size, cost, everything.

Then the first-year reliability figures came out. Echo, above average reliability. Focus, below average. I bought the Echo. Life is too short to spend it at the repair shop.

EditorialWe

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I've had people complain that Ford Taurus's develope major problems prematurely. Aside from exploding Pinto gas tanks, what are people's opinions on Ford cars?

Seattle,

My wife has a '96 Ford Probe, and she loves it. She wanted it because she liked the sporty look.

Personally, I'd have preferred another Toyota for her (I love my Camry), but she was set on this one. I have to admit that we've never had a moments trouble with it since we bought.

Tony
...but I still am...

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I had a '71 Ford Pinto. Lime Green.

So rusted out, the door continued shaking for 2 minutes after shutting it.

The horn would periodically pop off the steering wheel while driving.

Ahhh, the good old days. :-)

Loved that car until some guy tried passing me on the right, and totalled it. Grrrr!

Tony
...but I still am...

Off2Aruba
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"Me personally, I wouldn't mind having a '65 Fastback Mustang with a 289 HP, the original alloys and the Pony interior.

Bret"

Wow, a man with taste and distinction. Who needs reliability when you have MUSCLE. ;)

right there with you

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I think their super-duty trucks kick butt.

I used to own a 1988 Mustang GT and loved it.

I wouldn't buy anything else they make.

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I have had four Fords. I had an escort, a taurus wagon, a taurus and now a windstar. Never a problem.

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I had a '71 Ford Pinto. Lime Green.
Loved that car until some guy tried passing me on the right, and totalled it.

Tony,

We're all just glad the guy didn't rear-end you and blow you up.

My mom had a Pinto station wagon when we were growing up. As much as people love to put down the Pinto, it was a pretty good car.

Bret
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Tony:

Well, that was only a car. Lime green at that. The good news is that you survived and came to the Fool boards. I am thinking of all the wisdom that you facilitate.

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Read Consumer's Report car issue (usually at locale library). They tend to rate Fords average; Chevys, GMC and Chrysler below average. Most foreign cars are rated higher (Japanese the best, followed by German). We have had no problems with '99 Expedition & '95 Explorer (both bought new).
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I have a '96 Contour with a little over 60K miles. Have not had one major problem with it. It's been a great car.

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We have had no problems with '99 Expedition & '95 Explorer
(both bought new).


So how's your gas bills ?

President Cheney has a plan for you.


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I love my Ford Explorer

In one week I will have owned it for five years. I have not had a single problem with it. It runs great. The gas mileage is fantastic! I mean in my old car I got 12-14 mpg now I usually average 18-20 MPG.

Hopefully by the time I need to buy a new vehicle Ford will be making the Explorer with a hybrid engine gas/fuelcell/electric. After all who wants to be driving in one of those small 50-60 mpg cars where if someone hits your car you probably will be maimed or die?

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<<I love my Ford Explorer

In one week I will have owned it for five years. I have not had a single problem with it. It runs great. The gas mileage is fantastic! I mean in my old car I got 12-14 mpg now I usually average 18-20 MPG.

Hopefully by the time I need to buy a new vehicle Ford will be making the Explorer with a hybrid engine gas/fuelcell/electric. After all who wants to be driving in one of those small 50-60 mpg cars where if someone hits your car you probably will be maimed or die?
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It must be nice to have all the environmentalists around in their small cars to have something safe to run in to in an accident situation. A little extra in fuel costs sounds like a cheap price to pay for additional safety and security.



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"I love my Ford Explorer
In one week I will have owned it for five years. I have not had a single problem with it. It runs great. The gas mileage is fantastic! I mean in my old car I got 12-14 mpg now I usually average 18-20 MPG."

I feel like this is in the same category as "jumbo shrimp." Can we say "oxyMORON"

I heard a really interesting commentary about people deriving their "self-esteem" on the road with the size of their vehicle. I am so sorry that these people with these monsters (they are not classified as cars but as trucks, ironically, not even in the van category) have no faith in their defensive driving skills and feel they need a bigger car to feel safer. Haha, I aspire to own a "Mini" Austin. In Europe gas is $$ but that has forced people to "think" smaller when it comes to vehicles. Even families with six kids do not own these mammoths. More power to more expensive gas!!!!!

By the way, in the last three days I have been behind three drivers where I have been forced to honk to get THEIR attention because THEY were driving off the road while they were dribbling into their cell phones. I try to ashame them into hanging up and they are road hazards!!! Is it just me or is it simple coincidence that they were all three SUVs.

Sorry for the rant.
Mangard
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<<I heard a really interesting commentary about people deriving their "self-esteem" on the road with the size of their vehicle. I am so sorry that these people with these monsters (they are not classified as cars but as trucks, ironically, not even in the van category) have no faith in their defensive driving skills and feel they need a bigger car to feel safer. Haha, I aspire to own a "Mini" Austin. In Europe gas is $$ but that has forced people to "think" smaller when it comes to vehicles. Even families with six kids do not own these mammoths. More power to more expensive gas!!!!!
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This is the argument of a fool, of course. Do you quit wearing seat belts because your have confidence in your defensive driving skills?


On the highway, mass is safety in the event of a collision. That some people choose not to provide the advantages of such safety or can't afford to do so is their decision ---although there would be a good argument for government requiring all passenger vehicles to be a minimum of two tons or so in mass.


Europe, of course, is entitled to its own foolishness.



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Read Cartalk.com for all KINDS of info (including repair records) on cars.

Of course I work at an NPR station AND I'm Italian, so I'm biased!
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On the highway, mass is safety in the event of a collision. That some people choose not to provide the advantages of such safety or can't afford to do so is their decision ---



in what universe does someone choose to not afford something? help me here...
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I have had alot of Fords in my driving years. I currently own a 2001 Ford Explorer and a 1996 Ford Contour. (18 yr old son drives the Contour) My 3 sisters all have Ford Explorers ranging in age from 1995-2001. Had a 1988 Tempo that I drove for 8 years before I got the Contour. I also had a 1995 Explorer that I traded in Jan for the 2001 model. The only work I ever had done on the 95 Explorer was front brakes at 82,000 miles. Traded it at 97,000 miles. My husband on the other hand has a 98 Chev Trk that he is always complaining about. Needed new brakes at 27,000 miles. Had to have the front bucket seats adjusted and they still give us both backaches. I think he'll go back to a Ford next time. Oh yeah, my dad was a Ford dealer for 37 years. He retired in 1974 so, no, I don't get good deals on my cars.
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This is the argument of a fool, of course. Do you quit wearing seat belts because your have confidence in your defensive driving skills?

I was offended by the choice of words. But other than that I am offended by the idea that people with these mammoths believe they A. Own more of the highway than you do because they are bigger B. Think they can drive more recklessly because they would be less injured in an accident with a smaller car C. Frequently, in my experience, run off the road while talking on their cell phone, unconcernend about the apparent danger they are presenting to themselves or others.

Frankly, we would all be much safer if everyone were concerned about their driving skills as much as they are concerned about what they are driving. No??? Europe's Foolishness might be the US's folly.

Mangard
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BTW:

If we all tried to drive vehicles bigger than Mrs. Jones it would be a horribly, viscious, cycle. If we all drove moderate sized vehicles and had the necessary driving skills to accompany the size of these vehicles and had deregulated gas prices so that the financial impact was further restricting the size of the vehicles then the world might be a much nicer place.

Besides, the bigger the car more force it has at whatever speed it is traveling and upon impact would do considerable more damage. (To itself against a brick wall or to another, smaller car...Or try wrapped around a tree)

Mangard
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If we all drove moderate sized vehicles and had the necessary driving skills to accompany the size of these vehicles and had deregulated gas prices so that the financial impact was further restricting the size of the vehicles then the world might be a much nicer place.

And if we all would start buying the wonderful gas/electric hybrids, it would be even better!

The Toyota Prius is the most practical, since it has seating for 5... If given the chance to trade my current car for a gas/electric hybrid, with no additional costs, I would do it in a second. (Unfortunately, I owe more then my car is worth due to previous foolishness.)

I agree that the large cars and SUV's should be reserved for those that require them for their businesses and such. Most of the time, the size is just unnecessary.

-j9
Hey, I drive a tiny VW Golf, and don't want to be plowed into by an Explorer! :)
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And if we all would start buying the wonderful gas/electric hybrids, it would be even better!

The Toyota Prius is the most practical, since it has seating for 5... If given the chance to trade my current car for a gas/electric hybrid, with no additional costs, I would do it in a second. (Unfortunately, I owe more then my car is worth due to previous foolishness.)


Interesting!

j9, my close friend recently bought the Toyota Prius, and he loves it. He gets awesome gas mileage, and is having a great time with the car.

My guess is that we'll be seeing a lot more of this kind of car in the future.

Tony
...but I still am...

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So what about people who drive larger vehicles responsibly?

I own a Suburban, wouldn't trade it for the world. I can see out of it, so have better chance at reacting than when I am in a lower vehicle. Since I don't commute in it, the cost of gas isn't much of an issue for me. I only use it for longer trips and to buy things I can't carry on the bus or my bike (mostly kitty litter and dog food).

I think the big tirade against large vehicle owners being irresponsible drivers is simply because they're more visible. I can't tell you how many times I've been cut off by a tiny car and had to slam on my brakes to avoid rear-ending the little critter.

I can agree with you on people becoming better drivers, but I don't believe that those driving larger vehicles are any worse than those driving small vehicles.

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I've had my 1990 Ford Festiva (really a Mazda design built by Kia) for the past 8 years/133,000 miles... not a problem with driving it... only routine maintenance, a battery change, tire replacements (2 blowouts). The only "significant" repair was some wiring around the ignition (appx. $100). I wish all my cars were at least as reliable as it has been. I can't bear to get rid of it yet since it still runs so well. While I respect Consumer Reports and others, I take "reliability reports" with a grain of salt: IMHO vehicles that are essentially the same, assembled at the same plants but are badged differently should have essentially the same reliability but aren't always reported that way. My own personal experience with cell phone users are that I've encountered far more car drivers jabbering away on the phone than SUV drivers (but I see more autos than SUVs anyway in my neck of the woods).
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<<And if we all would start buying the wonderful gas/electric hybrids, it would be even better!

The Toyota Prius is the most practical, since it has seating for 5... If given the chance to trade my current car for a gas/electric hybrid, with no additional costs, I would do it in a second. (Unfortunately, I owe more then my car is worth due to previous foolishness.)

Interesting!

j9, my close friend recently bought the Toyota Prius, and he loves it. He gets awesome gas mileage, and is having a great time with the car.

My guess is that we'll be seeing a lot more of this kind of car in the future.

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These cars may be practicle for some, but vehicle uses and needs vary widely, which is why there are so many different kinds of vehicles. A Prius would be the most impracticle car for me, since I have a boat that needs to be towed, and vehicles of this type lack the engine capacity needed to tow heavy loads.

I was encouraged that both the Republican and Dem energy plans make no effort to impose further mileage restrictions on vehicles. Car bigots like to complain loudly about other people's choice of vehicle, but apparently lack the power to do more than beef about it.



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In addition to my Festiva I also own an Isuzu Trooper which is paid for. At this time I don't see the rationale in buying a more fuel-efficient car like the Prius (fine car that it is). Accounting for the recent gas price increases, why should I spend $5,000+/year on a new car note to save $1,000/year in petrol? As for the people fearful of the damage SUVs cause in crashes to their smaller cars, I have the same concerns with the reckless Accord and numerous car makes driven by cell phone users that are inattentive to my Festiva. I have no bias for or against other cars, but I have noticed how I've had near events mostly with the pseudo sports cars, and not with SUVs, weaving in and out of traffic.
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Actually, I've had pretty darned good luck with Fords. I've driven three of them into the ground and am working on two more...my first was a 1976 LTD-II station wagon. HUGE! ENORMOUS! And it kept running long enough for it to become an embarrassment; one simply didn't drive vehicles that got less than 10 MPG in the 80s, hel-LO you non-environmentally conscience heathen! (Which phrase was spat at me in a parking lot while I was still in high school, oh, the TRAUMA!)

Then I had a 1985 Ford Tempo, which we called the Peach of the Lemon Line. Everybody we knew had terrible experiences with the year and the model, but mine just ran and ran and ran. We had one major problem with it, which was fixed under warranty and never went out again. When I got rid of it at about 150K miles, it was only because I had just purchased a big old harp and couldn't fit it into the back seat.

SO, I got a 1985 Ford E-250 extended semi-conversion van. Sweet "little" vehicle; I drove it over 180K miles before she finally heaved the last sigh. I still get teary thinking about it. I spent a lot of pretty comfortable nights cuddled up on that bed with my harp stretched out in the main cab; after eight hours of playing the harp and singing, it was heaven to go back to a nice soft, warm bed in a vehicle with a porta-potty instead of a sleeping bag in a tent! And she managed about 25 MPG, which for a vehicle that size ain't bad.

Then I got my Escort wagon, which, at 105K is still going strong and getting me 30-35 MPG. Which is nice, since my OTHER vehicle is a 1997 E-250 conversion with the full cabinet-pop-top-roof thingee with the little TV and VCR in it. The ultimate in traveling why-yes-I'll-be-camping-here-because-I-can't-afford-a-motel musician luxury. And it also gets about 25 on the open highway. And considerably less in town. Like, about, oh, 11-12. Guess which vehicle I take to the supermarket...

I've also owned a Toyota, a Honda, and a Fiat. Overall, for handling, service, and just general get-ya-thereness, I'm pretty happy with my Fix or Repair Daily. My Fiat didn't last to 50K, my Civic was considered a total loss in a single accident which I'm pretty sure my Escort would have driven away from (and I'm positive my van would have...right over the car that hit me - in fact, I doubt he would have hit me in the first place. It's harder to "not see" something that huge), and the Toyota...well, let's just not go there about that tin can on wheels, OK? Great gas mileage, but it couldn't get out of its own way and was CONSTANTLY needing its stupid clutch "adjusted." At $300 a pop. Argh!

Boy, what a rant. Y'all can insult da Prez, and ya can call my credit card stupid, but question the integrity of Ford and I'm there... 8^D

Onward!
Tamarian
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I think the big tirade against large vehicle owners being irresponsible drivers is simply because they're more visible. I can't tell you how many times I've been cut off by a tiny car and had to slam on my brakes to avoid rear-ending the little critter.

Actually, my rant on this isn't that SUV drivers are worse than everybody else - it's that they drive those huge vehicles AS IF THEY WERE CARS! In other words, they drive just as badly as everybody else - but they have more weight and height and when they hit they do worse damage to the other guy.

My van is not a car. It cannot zip along a mountain road. It cannot fly down the freeway when there are high winds. It does not bank, or zoom-zoom, or in any way make the Sexiest Car of the Year cover of Automotive Weekly. It needs more time to stop, a wider turn radius, and if it hits the back of a Civic it will probably start climbing right over it, crushing the people inside TO DEATH.

I think about it every time I get behind the wheel. Why can't other drivers of large vehicles?

Man, am I on my horse tonight or what? But, having watched a pair of large trucks drag racing down our residential street today (!), I'm really in a mood...

Onward!
Tamarian
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I do not treat my SUV like a car. Most mature adults with minimal experience know that SUVs are not cars, and IMHO most adult SUV drivers are responsible. There are a minority of bad drivers in every population (don't use seat belts/dui/reckless/speed/immature, etc.). In my own experience most of the people who cut me off in traffic are cars and pickups, not SUVs, not 18-wheelers, not buses. I think it's partly because of the sheer volume of cars and the mistaken assumption by these car drivers that the SUVs they cut off can stop on a dime if they cut them off. I find it incredible, but some posters on an Edmunds message board joked about cutting off SUVs (because they dislike them) and doing "brake checks". What's up with THAT nonsense?... When I eventually replace my SUV, I'll look at the #1 Ford Explorer; in spite of the tire debacle, a lot of people seem to like them.
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I have a 1998 Mustang V6, that is the most wonderful car in the world. I owned two Chevy's before that were ALWAYS having to have something done to them. My mom owns a Buick LeSabre that should have its own space at the dealership its there so often.

I've had to have my oil changed, and put tires on the horse (because I hate goodyear tires), and that's about it. Never in my life have I ever been this happy with a car, and I plan to keep it until she absolutely has to go to the glue factory.

I LOVE MY MUSTANG!!!
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