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Franky: dude, I've listened to "the other side" for the last 25 years, and yes, I did read the article. Did you? It says right in the article that there has been skepticism about whether there is even warming. Muller himself was skeptical of the research, but not now. Where have you been for the last 25 years?

Granted, a lot deniers have shifted, like you, to "Oh, but it's not man-made", which was very predictable. The next stage is, "we can't do anything about it". 

But I never said it was man made, did I? No, I didn't. Do I think it is? Who cares? That wasn't even my point. My point was that a pretty high profile skeptic over the years is no longer skeptical that the research shows warming.

That would be progress expect for the fact that the deniers don't want progress, they just want to make sure nothing changes.


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