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Conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt asks Jonathan Alter about his fellow Obama bum kisser Clarence Page's statement:


Hewitt: And here is what Clarence Page, he stunned me on my program earlier this week, by doubting the president's veracity when he made that statement. Here's the exchange with Clarence.

Hewitt: He knew he was lying?

Page: Probably. Probably. But that's one of those political lies.

Hewitt: Do you agree with Clarence?

Alter: Wow. I don't know exactly how to react to that, because first of all, I don't know when the statement was that he made it, that he made when he said you know, you absolutely will be able to--was that in 2008? Was that in early 2009?

Hewitt: He said it many, many times throughout 2009 when he was selling the bill.

Alter: Yeah, so I think where Clarence is right is that politicians in order to get stuff through, they often make a lot of nice-sounding promises that they then can't necessarily keep. But it's very, in terms of whether he lied or not, I think it's very important to know whether he said it before or after the law was passed.

Hewitt: If he said it after, if he said it before the law was passed.

Alter: It was a moving target. If he said it before the law was passed, then I wouldn't call it a lie, because, you know, the law went through a number of permutations. If he said it after the law was passed, then he knew that wasn't going to be true.
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