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Coming soon to the US if Team 0bama have their way:


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Sgt Danny Nightingale, 37, was caged for 18 months at a court martial despite evidence he did not even know he still had the trophy.

Comrades packed it up with his gear and sent it on to him after he accompanied home the coffins of two close pals killed in a helicopter crash.

The Glock 9mm was still in its unopened box when cops discovered it at temporary digs he was sharing — by which time the sarge was battling brain damage that affected his memory.

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Danny’s dad Humphrey, 64 — a retired farmer — said in Linford, Hants: “It’s unbelievable. Danny has given his life to this country over 17 years.

“He only accepted the pistol from anti-terrorist forces in Iraq because it would have been rude to turn down the gift.”

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Danny’s commanding officer in Iraq, Lt Col Richard Williams, branded the sentence “a total betrayal of a man who dedicated his life to the service of his country”.


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys...
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wtf does Obama have to do with this?
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wtf does Obama have to do with this?

The guy who spent his entire career trying to ban gun stores, concealed carry, handgun possession (in Chicago and D.C.) and whose admin just threw their support behind a UN gun treaty written by countries who argue that any civilian owned firearms are illegal weapons (as shown in this case)? Plenty. Thank GOD the House is in GOP hands and there are enough Senators to filibuster any attempt to ratify that UN treaty or else the situation in the article WOULD be happening here in short order.
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wtf does Obama have to do with this?
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The guy who spent his entire career trying to ban gun stores


No, I mean what does Obama have to do with an SAS guy who plead guilty to an illegal firearms possession charge in the UK?

Are you saying that Obama wants to bring UK-style gun laws to the US? Not gonna happen. Don't worry about it.
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No, I mean what does Obama have to do with an SAS guy who plead guilty to an illegal firearms possession charge in the UK?

It's a warning of what could happen here. He plead guilty to A. something that should never be illegal in the first place and B. certainly doesn't deserve 18 months in jail for it.

Are you saying that Obama wants to bring UK-style gun laws to the US?

Yes, there's no denying that.

Not gonna happen.

Only because it can't pass the House (especially if the GOP has a majority) and due to the filibuster in the Senate. Hence I agree... as long as we keep it that way.

Don't worry about it.

Sorry, governments violating inherent rights is something I'll always worry about. Being pro-freedom is just how I roll.
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Nov 7, 2012 4:25 PM ET

Why Are Guns Stocks on the Rise This Year?

Smith & Wesson Holding Corp. (SWHC) climbed the most in two months to lead a rally among firearms manufacturers as traders speculated that President Barack Obama’s re-election will spur gun sales.

Shares of Smith & Wesson jumped 9.6 percent to $10.37 at the close in New York, the biggest gain since Sept. 7, while Sturm Ruger & Co. (RGR) rose 6.8 percent to $47.68. Both make handguns as well as rifles that include semiautomatic models.

After sidestepping gun-control measures in his first term, Obama said last month he would consider reintroducing a ban on civilian purchases of military-style assault weapons. Firearm sales have grown at 10 percent annually since 2008, when Obama was elected, compared with a 7 percent rate from 2001 to 2007, according to Benchmark Co.

“While we maintain our view that these political sales do not represent the entirety of recent firearms sales growth, we expect that with President Obama’s re-election these sales could continue well into his second term,” Mike Greene, an analyst at New York-based Benchmark, wrote in a note to clients today....


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-07/smith-wesson-gunmak...

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The best argument 0 could muster up when asked about the second amendment was that its purpose was for target practice and hunting. Ne'er a peep about self-protection.
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The best gun control is a firm grip on your weapon and a straight aim when a scumbag tries to do you or your family harm. Second Amendment purpose number one.

The next best aim is directed straight at a tyrannical gubmint trying to take your second amendment rights away.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood "of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure." Thomas Jefferson
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Ne'er a peep about self-protection.

Nor to deter oppression and/or abuse from government.
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No, I mean what does Obama have to do with an SAS guy who plead guilty to an illegal firearms possession charge in the UK?

It's a warning of what could happen here.


It could already happen here with or without Obama. It's illegal to possess an unlicensed or unregistered handgun in a lot of states, (including Michigan.)


He plead guilty to A. something that should never be illegal in the first place and B. certainly doesn't deserve 18 months in jail for it.

A. Why should unregistered firearms possession not be illegal in the UK? There's no Second Amendment there.

B. It was a court martial, right? Military judges tend to be hard a$$e$.
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The next best aim is directed straight at a tyrannical gubmint trying to take your second amendment rights away.

Umm... the story is from the UK.
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It could already happen here with or without Obama. It's illegal to possess an unlicensed or unregistered handgun in a lot of states, (including Michigan.)

Michigan does have pistol registration... for the time being (getting rid of it has been bandied about for awhile, and there has been movement in that direction such as getting rid of the useless safety checks). Most states don't register pistols as it happens, Michigan is in the minority on that count. Of course some states register all guns (such as Illinois) but that's quite rare.

But we aren't just talking unlicensed/unregistered, they have a near total ban on handgun possession in the UK, to the point where they nearly banned pistol shooting in the recent Olympics there. You could basically take Chicago's pre-McDonald laws nationwide to have the same situation as they have in the UK.

A. Why should unregistered firearms possession not be illegal in the UK? There's no Second Amendment there.

No, but the people there still do have the right to keep and bear arms, it's just that they're being denied that right by their government. In fact our Second Amendment is a direct descedent of the English Bill of Rights of 1689. Their government clamped down on the rights of the people, ours recognized them. That's really the only difference.

You read that right: The UK is a human rights violator IMHO. Same as any place that denies their people the right to keep and bear arms.

B. It was a court martial, right? Military judges tend to be hard a$$e$.

That's certainly true, but even those in the military over there were surprised by the ruling.
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That's certainly true, but even those in the military over there were surprised by the ruling.

I think it's a bum deal too. I just don't think a harsh sentence handed down by a British court martial has anything at all to do with Obama.
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