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I take it back, I don't have time to play this game.

From where I'm sitting, the only person playing games is you. Granted, I would have phrased the question differently, but you're pretty steadfastly trying to weasel out of why you think we should accept your flat assertion that "the genetic code" is designed.

Since you seem to be using "the genetic code" in a way that doesn't map in any way to the proper scientific definition, you should probably state what you're studying that you find so convincing.

I'm fairly sure you don't mean DNA itself. You state "The complexity of DNA refers to its physical structure, its arrangement of parts." But since DNA is in fact not at all complex in its physical structure, and you keep alluding to other things, I think you're just stating your case badly.

I'm guessing that you mean the expression of DNA. And not just the first level expression, which is just a set of proteins, but the entire organism. DNA doesn't exactly encode an entire human being, but it does encode for proteins that eventually result in a human being. That's pretty fascinating stuff.

The problem with your argument - assuming I'm capturing what you mean, rather than what you've said - is that it's by no means sufficient to imply design. "I don't understand it" or "I can't conceive of it" isn't an argument. It's just an admission of personal failure of imagination.

What you're encountering is Emergent Behavior. "Emergent behavior" is the phenomenon where relatively simple interactions produce complex results.

It's something you see over and over again in all sorts of different fields. One of the simpler examples is the 3 body problem, where it becomes extremely difficult to accurately predict the orbital motions of 3 bodies that are attracted to each other by gravity. The principles involved are very simple, but the resulting motions are terribly complex. To this day, we do no more than approximate it for all but the simplest cases.

Another common example is social insects, like ants. Ants have relatively few behaviors, but the behavior of the colony is very complex.

As a programmer, I've generated all sorts of systems where relatively simple rules have produced complicated, unexpected results. I've had AIs I've written execute tactics that I had not explicitly coded. I had simply set up a set of equations, and there were useful interactions in the equations I did not foresee.

The point being that the complexity of the results of DNA code groups is irrelevant. We have plenty of examples of things which are definitely not designed where simple effects give you complex results. When we look at DNA itself, it's actually very simple. As are the mechanisms whereby it changes.

Which is why, I believe, you're saying "it's complicated" and we're saying "it's simple."

- Gus
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