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If you are saying that the IDiots have no case, I think you are a little harsh. If you are saying the case is not ready for prime time, well thats a different story. One thing I've noticed in the discussions here, is when creationist try to make a case for the "scientific" nature of ID, playing by science's rules, the line keeps getting moved.

That's an odd take. I see people pointing out, time and again, what science is about, and it all seems consistent. I haven't seen the bar move at all, though I have seen ID fail to clear it on a number of occasions.
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