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In case someone has forgotten, the ten commandments include prohibitions on theft and lying.

Someone relying on the English translation might think so, but
surely you know better.

There is a commandment against vain oaths made in G-ds name, which is not the same as lying.

And our mesorah teaches that the 8th commandment refers to stealing people (kidnapping).

There are other mitzvot relating to theft, but that’s not part of the aseret hadibrot.


Indeed I can read and clearly understand the Hebrew original.

The eighth commandment is just two words, which mean "do not steal". There is no ambiguity.
The ninth commandment is not to bear false witness. Since at the time these were written there were no courts, I take it to mean that any lying is forbidden.

I don't need any self appointed "sages" to tell me what is plainly written.

Elan
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I would think if they were observant in honoring the Ten Commandments, they probably wouldn't have been incarcerated in the first place. Can you mount a Mezuzah on your cell door?

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if they were observant in honoring the Ten Commandments

The crime (to which this person pled guilty) was not one of the Ten Commandments.

(Which is to say, this person was not charged with idolatry, using G-d's name in vain, failure to keep the Sabbath, failing to show respect to his parents, etc.)
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(Which is to say, this person was not charged with idolatry, using G-d's name in vain, failure to keep the Sabbath, failing to show respect to his parents, etc.)

In case someone has forgotten, the ten commandments include prohibitions on theft and lying.

Elan
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The beauty of the 10 Commandments is that you can usually ascribe just about any crime to one of them.

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In case someone has forgotten, the ten commandments include prohibitions on theft and lying.

Someone relying on the English translation might think so, but
surely you know better.

There is a commandment against vain oaths made in G-ds name, which is not the same as lying.

And our mesorah teaches that the 8th commandment refers to stealing people (kidnapping).

There are other mitzvot relating to theft, but that’s not part of the aseret hadibrot.
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In case someone has forgotten, the ten commandments include prohibitions on theft and lying.

Someone relying on the English translation might think so, but
surely you know better.

There is a commandment against vain oaths made in G-ds name, which is not the same as lying.

And our mesorah teaches that the 8th commandment refers to stealing people (kidnapping).

There are other mitzvot relating to theft, but that’s not part of the aseret hadibrot.


Indeed I can read and clearly understand the Hebrew original.

The eighth commandment is just two words, which mean "do not steal". There is no ambiguity.
The ninth commandment is not to bear false witness. Since at the time these were written there were no courts, I take it to mean that any lying is forbidden.

I don't need any self appointed "sages" to tell me what is plainly written.

Elan
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I don't need any self appointed "sages" to tell me what is plainly written.

In Exodus (Shemot) 13:9, it says:

"V'haya l'cha l'ot al yadecha, ulzicaron bayn anecha."

Without relying on our mesorah, can you explain what it is we are supposed to put on our hands and between our eyes?

(Sorry about the transliteration; you can find the Hebrew here: http://www.mechon-mamre.org/i/t/t0213.htm)
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"V'haya l'cha l'ot al yadecha, ulzicaron bayn anecha."

Without relying on our mesorah, can you explain what it is we are supposed to put on our hands and between our eyes?


I don't know and I don't care. As far as I'm concerned it's yet another ridiculous ritual.

Elan
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I don't know and I don't care.

I, on the other hand, know exactly what it means, despite my lousy Hebrew.

Because our mesorah tells us.
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