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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-w...

"Obama didn’t just address this perennial Palestinian dodge. He demolished the very claim that settlements are the obstacle to peace. Palestinian sovereignty and Israeli security are “the core issue,” he told Abbas. “If we solve those two problems, the settlement problem will be solved.”"

Howie52
Now, the Palestinians have the opportunity to choose peace - and
co-existence with Israel.
Of course, they actually have to want peace - and co-existence.
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Now, the Palestinians have the opportunity to choose peace - and
co-existence with Israel.
Of course, they actually have to want peace - and co-existence.
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there are plenty of Jewish Israelis that do not want any Palestinians on the west bank of the Jordan, mostly Orthodox.
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Now, the Palestinians have the opportunity to choose peace - and
co-existence with Israel.
Of course, they actually have to want peace - and co-existence.
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there are plenty of Jewish Israelis that do not want any Palestinians on the west bank of the Jordan, mostly Orthodox. "

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But none of those have prevented the land for peace proposals from
being placed on the table.

Howie52
The table has been set several times - seems as though the co-existence
is the problem from the Palestinian side.

Place your bets.
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But none of those have prevented the land for peace proposals from
being placed on the table.

Howie52
The table has been set several times - seems as though the co-existence
is the problem from the Palestinian side.

Place your bets
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Several Israeli settlements in the West Bank have been rules as illegal by Israeli courts and the Israeli government has not removed them.
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But none of those have prevented the land for peace proposals from
being placed on the table.

Howie52
The table has been set several times - seems as though the co-existence
is the problem from the Palestinian side.

Place your bets
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Several Israeli settlements in the West Bank have been rules as illegal by Israeli courts and the Israeli government has not removed them. "

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I suggest you read the editorial.
Settlements have nothing to do with peace negotiations.

Unless you do not want to have peace negotiations in the first place.
The negotiations would result in removal of settlements if the
settlements were in the land area ceded to Palestinians.

Howie52
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I suggest you read the editorial.
Settlements have nothing to do with peace negotiations.

Unless you do not want to have peace negotiations in the first place.
The negotiations would result in removal of settlements if the
settlements were in the land area ceded to Palestinians.

Howie52
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What difference does a treaty make if the Israeli government refuses or is unable to enforce existing laws?
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I suggest you read the editorial.
Settlements have nothing to do with peace negotiations.

Unless you do not want to have peace negotiations in the first place.
The negotiations would result in removal of settlements if the
settlements were in the land area ceded to Palestinians.

Howie52
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What difference does a treaty make ..."

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What difference does a treaty make?
The difference between a possible mid-east peace accord and another
war.
The difference may be the only hope the Palestinians have - they are
used by every Arab and mid-eastern Muslim state but never granted citizenship by any. Speak about illegal aliens to Syria, Iraq, Egypt,
Iran.

Howie52
What difference does it make?
At least as much as the life of an ambassador and his defenders.
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What difference does a treaty make?
The difference between a possible mid-east peace accord and another
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A treaty makes no difference when the Israeli government chooses not to enforce existing law.


As Andrew Jackson is rumored to have stated when informed of a Supreme Court decision stating that removing the Cherokee from the Carolinas and Tennessee was illegal. Stated that the court made the ruling and the court would have to enforce it...then he commanded the army to move the Cherokee. The 'Trail of Tears; was the result.... Ethnic cleansing and genocide we would call it today.

Treaties are only as good as those who enforce them.
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"A treaty makes no difference when the Israeli government chooses not to enforce existing law."

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You follow the Mrs Clinton international views.

What difference does it make.

Assassination of ambassadors? - What difference?
A peace treaty between Israel and Palestinians? - What difference?


Howie52
The only people who benefit from such a treaty are the Palestinians and
the Israelis.
What difference?
A possibility for peace.
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