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"Maryland will require background checks for all sales and transfers of rifles and shotguns, after lawmakers voted on Thursday to override Gov. Larry Hogan’s veto of the measure. Previously all sales of handguns, and sales of long guns by licensed firearms dealers, were subject to background checks. Private sales and transfers of long guns were exempt from the checks, which gun control advocates considered to be a loophole.

Proponents of the new law say it will ensure that people who are prohibited from owning guns, such as those with protective orders against them or violent criminal histories, cannot get their hands on long guns by buying them in private transactions.

They’ll now need to go to a licensed dealer, who can charge up to $30 to complete an instant federal background check. The law will go into effect in 30 days."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/maryland-to-require-...
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Proponents of the new law say it will ensure that people who are prohibited from owning guns, such as those with protective orders against them or violent criminal histories, cannot get their hands on long guns by buying them in private transactions.

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No it won't. Libs will feel virtuous, thinking they have solved a problem, whether it accomplishes anything or not.

People with violent criminal histories will steal them or buy them from other criminals, easy peasy.

Meanwhile law abiding citizens will be inconvenienced and charged $30 for the privilege.
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People with violent criminal histories will steal them or buy them from other criminals, easy peasy.

Meanwhile law abiding citizens will be inconvenienced and charged $30 for the privilege.


Pretty much.

Here is a list of laws passed in Maryland, they keep squeezing until there will be nothing left to own, yet Baltimore is one of the gun crime capitals of the USA, usually in the top 3.

Rapid fire trigger device ban 10/1/2018

Red Flag / ERPO confiscations 10/1/2018

Mandatory registration of regulated arms 90 days of moving to MD 10/1/2013

10 round magazine limit 10/1/2013

HQL for handgun purchase 10/1/2013

Assault weapons /copy cat weapons ban (regulated rifles) 10/1/2013

5lb Limit on storage of smokeless powder / 5lb limit on black powder 10/1/2003

Mandated safety course for regulated firearms purchase 10/1/2000

Mandated trigger locks 10/1/2000

Ballistic records / shell casings retained for new purchases (rescinded 2015) 10/1/2000

Firearms seizures in domestic violence cases 10/1/1996

One regulated purchase per month 10/1/1996

End of private handgun sales 10/1/1996

Straw purchases banned 10/1/1996

Assault pistol ban 10/1/1996

20 round magazine limit 1994

Firearms secured from children under 16 1992

"Assault Rifles" added to handguns as "regulated firearms" 1989

Handgun Roster Board Established / Ban on "Saturday Night Specials" 1988

Wear and Carry Permit established 1972

Good and Substantial reason for carry permits 1972

Handguns prohibited from vehicles (excluding a few exceptions for transport) 1972

7-day wait for regulated firearms 1966

Pistol registration for new purchases 1966

Denial of handguns purchase for those who spent >30 consecutive days in a mental institution 1966

Annual State machine gun registration 1934

Good and Substantial reason to carry (open or concealed without a permit) 1886

Prohibition of free blacks from carrying arms following Nate Turner Slave Rebellion (later rescinded) 12/1831
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Here is a list of laws passed in Maryland, they keep squeezing until there will be nothing left to own, yet Baltimore is one of the gun crime capitals of the USA, usually in the top 3.

Each and every one is an infringement on the RIGHT to keep and bear arms.

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"Mandated safety course for regulated firearms purchase"

Isn't this a good thing? The NRA lauds it's Eddie Eagle educational program, and many pro-gun folks recommend putting gun safety education back in public schools.
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"Mandated safety course for regulated firearms purchase"

Gee, what word in the above sentence does not belong???
(hint, it is the first one)
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"Gee, what word in the above sentence does not belong???
(hint, it is the first one)"

Just wondering (not arguing) why anyone would be opposed to this.
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duh, many purchasers already know how to safely handle firearms.
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Maryland sounds like one of those places best seen from the rear view mirror of a car leaving the state ... Some if not most of those restrictions are unconstitutional but establishing that is a long difficult and expensive process, it's easier not to live or visit there..

BTW they force training and licensing on you to operate a car. Not to purchase one..Why different with guns?

All those anti gun (actual anti citizen) laws are working so well in Baltimore
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"BTW they force training and licensing on you to operate a car. Not to purchase one.."

You can purchase a car but you can't use it before the licensing and training.
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"Mandated safety course for regulated firearms purchase"

Isn't this a good thing? The NRA lauds it's Eddie Eagle educational program, and many pro-gun folks recommend putting gun safety education back in public schools.


A safety course, or psychological exam, or demonstrating a "need" are ALL violations of a basic civil right. Safety courses are great and responsible firearm owners encourage people to learn the art of safe weapon handling as well as acquire skill with said arms. However the right to purchase, keep, and bear arms is a civil right that SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!

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However the right to purchase, keep, and bear arms is a civil right that SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!

That is a lot of hysterical shouting. Makes me want to ask: or. else. what?

Even the NRA does not allow guns at its conventions. Hypocrisy or common sense, you decide.
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That is a lot of hysterical shouting. Makes me want to ask: or. else. what?

Or else we vote them out and elect representatives who abide by the Constitution. Then we get results like originalists on SCOTUS. Plus we get Constitutional carry across the nation, up to 17 states now and all the others allow for some kind of carry.

Even the NRA does not allow guns at its conventions. Hypocrisy or common sense, you decide.

Are you sure about that? Perhaps you could enlighten us as to the source of any restrictions.

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BTW they force training and licensing on you to operate a car. Not to purchase one.."

You can purchase a car but you can't use it before the licensing and training.


Is there an echo in here, that is just what I said. Licensing a car is all about tax revenue not safety.,

Actually I approve of some sort of training before people can use a gun outside the home. But the training must be realistic. And done only once. All records of it purged,the gun user to get a card proving he took the course .If safe guards are not in place then I am against it.

The anti gun people really don't care about safety,they react to guns just like some people react to spiders. Even harmless ones. Proof of this is wording "gun crime" but never a word like "car crime" even though both cars and guns are inanimate not able to do anything by themselves
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Actually I approve of some sort of training before people can use a gun outside the home. But the training must be realistic. And done only once. All records of it purged,the gun user to get a card proving he took the course .If safe guards are not in place then I am against it.

Slippery slope.

That kind of compromise is what got us all the restrictions we have now. The founders were very clear when they wrote: The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". I think people are pretty smart and they will voluntarily get safety training and training in the use of firearms without being mandated to do so by some mentally dull/cowardly bureaucrat. Constitutional carry is now legal in 17 states and there has been no uptick in violence or accidents.

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"Are you sure about that? Perhaps you could enlighten us as to the source of any restrictions."

They didn't allow guns in the hall when President Trump spoke at the NRA convention. I remember some on-line discussions in pro-2nd forums that weren't very happy about that.
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"Or else we vote them out and elect representatives who abide by the Constitution. Then we get results like originalists on SCOTUS. Plus we get Constitutional carry across the nation, up to 17 states now and all the others allow for some kind of carry."

So where are the pro-2nd candidates? For crikes sake, the NRA espimates that there are at a minimum, 300M+ guns "out there". Where are all those owners who could be good candidates for these public offices?
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"All records of it purged,the gun user to get a card proving he took the course .If safe guards are not in place then I am against it."

The last thing anyone needs to worry about longevity of state records. The record keeping systems are so archaic, they barely know what data they have. One of my kids works in IT for government agency and was just telling me today about a system they are trying to upgrade because it is 20 years old! He said it is a nightmare to find any data in that monstrosity.
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They didn't allow guns in the hall when President Trump spoke at the NRA convention.

At the behest of the secret service, not the NRA.

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"At the behest of the secret service, not the NRA."

So why didn't NRA leadership put up a big "stink" over it?
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So why didn't NRA leadership put up a big "stink" over it?

Why should they? The safety of the President and his willingness to speak at the convention are beneficial to all members. You never know if some whacko (or group of whackos) disguised as a Trump supporter or NRA member is going to infiltrate the crowd and do something horrific. In most cases armed civilian response would be the first to put down the threat, but the secret service and the NRA decided the stakes were too high.

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"but the secret service and the NRA decided the stakes were too high."

For an organization with a major goal to preserve the right of self-defense, such a decision seems rather contradictory. But as they say, truth is stranger than fiction.
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