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But the United Kingdom where owning or carrying a firearm is forbidden - even for the great majority of the police.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/5712573...

How violent are the Brits? Greater than four times more so than Americans.

And Australia? Still about four times as violent.

In fact, in countries where firearms for law abiding people are limited, the murder, rape and assault rates seldom are lower than in the United States.

Guns stop crime when in the hands of good people. When idiots wrest the guns from good people and throw them away, good people are left defenseless and even the idiots who take the firearms from good people are less defended - despite the fact that most of THEM have armed guards surrounding their cowardly persons.

Refute the UK statistics, folks. Go right ahead and try. It's there in black and white.
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