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NeoConservatives are basically ex-Liberals who have been mugged at gunpoint and therefore, somewhat less naive.

They love big government, infringement on Liberties, they really don't care about keeping taxes and regulation low. They are Liberals, but Liberals who got tired of spitting on soldiers, burning flags, unilateral dismarnament.

They wish to use American Power to reshape the globe...sometimes in American interest, other times in Israeli interest. Where so many previous empires have FAILED, NeoConservatives think they will succeed. (Nevermind, we got our BUTTS KICKED, and 4000 KILLED in Iraq)

Also, NeoCons are USERS. Bill Clinton WISELY gave them an audience and a budget, but then ignored them. 9-11 allowed NeoCons to use fear and misguided Patriotism on the order to begin their GodLike dreams of remaking Iran, Iraq, and Syria. Once they got their war......they did NOTHING for the Conservative Movement. At the 1st sign of trouble it's people like BILL KRISTOL and DAVID FRUM lecturing Conservatives on why tax hikes and amnesty is good.

Case in point....

(The eloquent poster is pleased about "cracks in Grover's armor" and cheers on Lindsey Graham's open-ness to raise taxes.)

""U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham said today he is ready to violate the “no new taxes” pledge he and most Republican lawmakers made to Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, to cut a deal that will keep the country from going off the so-called fiscal cliff around the first of next year.""

That author is an ARDENT supporter of NeoCon foreign policy. Hit Iran! Hit Iraq! Israel can do no wrong. Yet here the NeoCon is, GLEEFUL that some in the GOP might want to raise taxes.

I realize our side has been seduced by all sorts of concepts we can't dare question, be it Israel or trade or whatever. BUT THE FACT REMAINS.......THE NEO CON IRAQ WAR IS WHAT GAVE US PELOSI 2006. THE NEO CON IRAQ WAR GAVE US OBAMA OVER HILLARY.

So when we get all huffy about "Israel is our best friend", and as we spew the NeoCon line with pride........just remember that when we're telling the I.R.S about our health care, or when the Wise Latina Sotomayor is altering our Constitution, OR when tax increases hit SMALL BUSINESSES, AND THE MIDDLE CLASS, AND our borders are pseudo-GONE, let's just remember that the NeoCons, whose causes we so ardently support......yet get NO LOVE IN RETURN.

Here's to Wolfowitz, Netanyahu, Kristol, Frum, Pearle, Feith.

And here's to Obama 2012.

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