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On December 10 Breitbart News reported that New Jersey was hours away from making it a felony to possess a magazine holding more than 10 rounds. The law took effect during the midnight hour of Tuesday, December 11.

Breitbart News contacted New Jersey State Police on Monday to ask how they planned to enforce the newly enacted ban.

The basis for the question about house-to-house checks is that Americans always fear Second Amendment prohibitions will lead to knocks on their doors.

The NJ State Police refused to rule out house-to-house checks. Rather, they responded: “We do not discuss enforcement strategies.”

Breitbart News also reached out to Gov. Phil Murphy’s (D) press secretary Daniel Bryan about enforcement of the ban. As of the publication of this article Bryan had not ruled out house-to-house enforcement of the ban either."

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/11/nj-state-polic...

Soon...they'll be coming for the guns...for the drugs.....for your printed material. For your computers that might have x-rated images...... and they won't be 'knocking' other than knocking it down....


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Soon...they'll be coming for the guns
NJ already can with its red flag law.

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/new-jersey/2018/02/28...
So-called “red flag" laws that allow police to temporarily take guns from people deemed by a judge to pose a threat have drawn renewed attention after a deadly shooting at a Florida high school last month, and New Jersey could be one of the states to adopt such a measure.
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<<Breitbart News contacted New Jersey State Police on Monday to ask how they planned to enforce the newly enacted ban.

The basis for the question about house-to-house checks is that Americans always fear Second Amendment prohibitions will lead to knocks on their doors.

The NJ State Police refused to rule out house-to-house checks. Rather, they responded: “We do not discuss enforcement strategies.”

Breitbart News also reached out to Gov. Phil Murphy’s (D) press secretary Daniel Bryan about enforcement of the ban. As of the publication of this article Bryan had not ruled out house-to-house enforcement of the ban either.">>


I hate to say it about a fine public service medium like Breitbart, but this is just junk reporting.


Police are no more able to go door to dor to find prohibited pistol magazines than they are to find marijuana.

What can happen is that if police have probable cause to search a house, they might bring charges if they find a prohibited object or drug. Or if police can see such an article in a car, or find such an article when someone is arrested, that can become the basis for a charge.

But house-to-house searches ----- please.

Now if New Jersey really WAS a gestapo state, you'd be telling me how the Brown Shirts were routinely grabbing marginalized citizens and beating the crap out of them until they turned in friends or family members, and then held that person while they broke into the homes and ransacked them or simply beat people up and hauled them off to concentration camps, charges or no charges.

That's the way a real Gestapo state operates.

I don't care for it when ignorant fools call Trump a Nazi, and I hereby lodge a protest against doing the same thing to my liberal friends living in New Jersey.


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Soon...they'll be coming for the guns
NJ already can with its red flag law. - tjscott0

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/new-jersey/2018/02/28......
So-called “red flag" laws that allow police to temporarily take guns from people deemed by a judge to pose a threat have drawn renewed attention after a deadly shooting at a Florida high school last month, and New Jersey could be one of the states to adopt such a measure.


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There is an important difference. The NJ law requires a judge make an order on an individual case basis, based on evidence of nutjobbery. I think this is a good and reasonable law so long as the accused has an opportunity within a very short period of time to present a defense and if sucessful can get his guns back.

That is quite different than a mass house to house warrantless search which would be a clear violation of the fourth amendment.

The Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights that prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures. It requires "reasonable" governmental searches and seizures to be conducted only upon issuance of a warrant, judicially sanctioned by probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.
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There is an important difference. The NJ law requires a judge make an order on an individual case basis, based on evidence of nutjobbery. I think this is a good and reasonable law so long as the accused has an opportunity within a very short period of time to present a defense and if sucessful can get his guns back.


Yes a judge must sign off. There isn’t a requirement of evidence; just an acussation. Every state law is different as who can make an acussation & who has to sign off for a return of firearms. I suspect these will reduce gun suicides rather than mass shootings.
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<<There is an important difference. The NJ law requires a judge make an order on an individual case basis, based on evidence of nutjobbery. I think this is a good and reasonable law so long as the accused has an opportunity within a very short period of time to present a defense and if sucessful can get his guns back.
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Ummm....

Remember the cops who grabbed up the guns of the mobsters protecting The Godfather outside the hospital....


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"There is an important difference. The NJ law requires a judge make an order on an individual case basis, based on evidence of nutjobbery. I think this is a good and reasonable law so long as the accused has an opportunity within a very short period of time to present a defense and if sucessful can get his guns back."

I'm sure some liberal left wing judge will more than give search warrants for anyone 'suspected' of having high capacity magazines, or having bought one on line, or having posted a picture of one in the last 10 years on social media.......

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"That is quite different than a mass house to house warrantless search which would be a clear violation of the fourth amendment."

If you have a handgun, a conceal carry permit, some judge will give the government the 'right' to inspect them and search for any illegal items like bump stocks and 'large magazines'.

You'll be declared 'mentally unfit' if you don't follow the law. Or have violated it int he past by buying one on line....

Boulder CO is about to do the same for folks 'failing to register' their semi-automatic weapons...... you "register them", or you are a felon starting this week. A year from now, they'll confiscate them.

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tj:" I suspect these will reduce gun suicides rather than mass shootings. "

duh? It only takes ONE bullet to commit suicide unless you are an enemy of Hillary or Bill, in which case you commit Arkancide with two bullets to the back of your head.....

This law 'outlaws' magazines of more than 10 bullets. That's all


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Police are no more able to go door to dor to find prohibited pistol magazines than they are to find marijuana.

What can happen is that if police have probable cause to search a house, they might bring charges if they find a prohibited object or drug. Or if police can see such an article in a car, or find such an article when someone is arrested, that can become the basis for a charge.

But house-to-house searches ----- please.


If I remembers correctly, back in the 60s during the riots, the police went door to door in Plainfield, N.J. confiscating firearms. Something similar happened in N’Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. Yes, the courts ruled later that the police had to return the firearms after being sued by the NRA in the case of N’Orleans.
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C.J.V. - don't go back to Jersey no more, me
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I left Jersey in 1968. My parents deserted Jersey in 1977 after working 44 years.

I have no reason to go back, but have a few relatives still living there - but haven't visited them in 40 years. Cousins and their kids....

New Jersey was a good place to grow up in during the 50s and 60s. Now it's turned to democrat socialist crap.


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