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While the Army discontinued traditional bayonet training in 2010,Mb< the USMC still trains Marines with bayonets and issues them as standard equipment. The Army has also begun training soldiers in a different style of bayonet use--not affixed to the end of a rifle but as a secondary melee weapon.
Instead, soldiers learn in combatives training how to use a knife or bayonet if someone grabs their primary weapon.
Some users on Twitter have claimed that, by virtue of the USMC still using bayonets, there actually are more bayonets in use than 1916, when the army had between 100,000 and 140,000 enlisted members. As of 2010, the Corps boasted 203,000 active duty members and 40,000 reserve marines.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/22/During-Debate-...
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You can't even trust a Marxist socialist progressive to get even the 'simple facts' straight.
There are MORE bayonets out there today in the military than in 1916!
Face it - he hates the military. It takes away his ability to create another 30-40 million welfare weenies and queenies.
Them pesky facts come back to haunt him!
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Wolverine307 can correct me if I'm wrong, but submarines are not ships. They are boats. It's the Electric Boat Division in Groton, CT, not the Electric Ship Division. Ships under water are sinking.
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Wolverine307 can correct me if I'm wrong, but submarines are not ships. They are boats.
Boats are the generally accepted name for submarines, but nobody will get upset if you call them ships either.
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There are MORE bayonets out there today in the military than in 1916!
Their military importance has declined somewhat, though, which was the point.
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There are MORE bayonets out there today in the military than in 1916!
Their military importance has declined somewhat, though, which was the point.
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No the point was to insult Romney, and entertain a bunch that were too ignorant to recognize what a joke Obama is on these issues
Apparently it worked.
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Their military importance has declined somewhat, though, which was the point.
The hell they have! Battles are still up close, personal and bloody. They're just as important now as they were in WWII.
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"There are MORE bayonets out there today in the military than in 1916!
Their military importance has declined somewhat, though, which was the point. "
You can try to spin it any way you want, but the miliary
1) BUYS more bayonets today than they did in 1916
2) Every soldier is trained in their use
From that you cannot conclude 'their importance has declined somewhat'....
It's just as important - if you spend time training folks and equipping them.
In hand to hand combat......the techniques are mostly the same.
Kill or be killed
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"There are MORE bayonets out there today in the military than in 1916!
Their military importance has declined somewhat, though, which was the point. "
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ROFLMAO
Just like the point of this post. It is to try to defend Obama no matter how stupid he is, and prove how wise he is.
The point of the post was not to defend Obama being wrong, as he is so often it is comical, but to show his being so smart that when he is wrong he is right.
The left is just so stacked with suckers it is scary.
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"There are MORE bayonets out there today in the military than in 1916!"
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"Their military importance has declined somewhat, though, which was the point." - advocatus diaboli
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I like pocket knives. Way more useful than bayonets! I've probably got about ~ 20 of them. You know who has good cheap pocket knives? Hammer's Discount store!
http://www.heraldchronicle.com/?page_id=833
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You can try to spin it any way you want, but the miliary
1) BUYS more bayonets today than they did in 1916
2) Every soldier is trained in their use
From that you cannot conclude 'their importance has declined somewhat'....
It's just as important - if you spend time training folks and equipping them.In hand to hand combat......the techniques are mostly the same.
Kill or be killed" tele
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Those 9/11 terrorists took over three airplanes and took out two giant buildings using box cutters. Maybe our soldiers should be issued box cutters?
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Those 9/11 terrorists took over three airplanes and took out two giant buildings using box cutters. Maybe our soldiers should be issued box cutters?
Artie
Art,
Unfortunately, our soldiers and marines will be opposed by armed opponents. Box cutters worked when the airplane crew and other passengers were unarmed. Give the airplane crew firearms and box cutters are not effective.
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You can't even trust a Marxist socialist progressive to get even the 'simple facts' straight.
You can't even trust a fascist authoritarian conservative to get even the 'simple point' straight.
When was the last time a military plan included "and then, from the southeast, this division will fix bayonets and charge..."? The Franco-Prussian War?
Or more recently, "you guys run into that cave and take out the Taliban with your bayonets. We'll...uh...cover you"?
Sure we train soldiers with bayonets...it's the training itself that is the point, not the specific utility of the bayonet. Any military plan that requires a soldier to use one is a failure.
You guys have really jumped the shark.
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Sure we train soldiers with bayonets...it's the training itself that is the point, not the specific utility of the bayonet. Any military plan that requires a soldier to use one is a failure.
I'll pass along to the Marines that their urban combat assaults involving hand-to-hand, house-to-house combat with bayonettes are "failure" in your eyes. I'm sure they'll be overjoyed.
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jwiest:"When was the last time a military plan included "and then, from the southeast, this division will fix bayonets and charge..."? The Franco-Prussian War?"
You must have been born yesterday.
The Japenese did that time and time again all over the Pacific....and we were the ones on the 'receiving end' of a bayonet charge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xVa8v77_fw
Time and time again, island after island. And they killed a lot of US men in the process.....tens of thousands of US service men killed by bayonets. Some of their relatives are still alive, and some who were injured by bayonets survive to this day.
How soon you forget.
Then again, I guess a lib education doesn't include WW2 these days. Other than to deny the holocaust, say that Hitler was a 'benevolent leader' in 'hard times' who 'inspired his people'....... PC Crap....
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The Japenese did that time and time again all over the Pacific....and we were the ones on the 'receiving end' of a bayonet charge.
...and they won...right? Oh, right.
Again you miss the point. Intentionally, I'm sure.
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The hell they have! Battles are still up close, personal and bloody. They're just as important now as they were in WWII.
I'm pretty sure that the ratio of kills by bullets + bombs + missiles to bayonets is around 1000:1, or more.
In the trench warfare of 1916, that was a lot different, although even at that time the importance of bayonets had declined greatly since, say, the American Civil War or the Napoleonic Wars.
