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Obama Vows to Bypass Congress on Climate Change

President Obama then threw down the gauntlet to Congress, declaring that if they didn’t act soon to enact federal legislation he would act without them:

But if Congress won’t act soon to protect future generations, I will. I will direct my Cabinet to come up with executive actions we can take, now and in the future, to reduce pollution, prepare our communities for the consequences of climate change, and speed the transition to more sustainable sources of energy.


But seems scientists are coming out of the woods to condemn man made global warming ....

What is Obama to do??


• More than 31,000 scientists in the United States have signed a petition urging the U.S. government to reject the kinds of AGW policies proposed by the UN IPCC and environmental extremists. The Petition Project was organized by Dr. Arthur Robinson of the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine and Dr. Frederick Seitz, physicist, professor, past president of Rockefeller University, and past president of the National Academy of Sciences.

• Climate Depot and Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT) have produced an important 321-page report featuring bios and statements of more than 1,000 prominent scientists from across the globe who vigorously dissent from the phony “consensus.”

• Forty-nine former NASA scientists and astronauts sent a letter in April, 2012, to NASA administrator Charles Bolden admonishing the agency for its role in advocating a high degree of certainty that man-made CO2 is a major cause of climate change while neglecting empirical evidence that calls the theory into question. The group included seven Apollo astronauts and two former directors of NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston.

• In the past few years, some of the leading and best-known advocates of AGW alarmism have reversed course and have become outspoken critics of the IPCC and the mindless, anti-science “groupthink” that dominates the alarmist ranks. These include: Dr. James Lovelock, global guru of the Green movement, most famous for developing the “Gaia Hypothesis”; Professor Fritz Vahrenholt, a founding father of Germany’s environmental movement; Dr. Denis Rancourt, a professor of physics at the University of Ottowa and a longtime, militant Green activist; Dr. Judith Curry, physicist and the chair of Earth & Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology, called (formerly) by some “The High Priestess of Global Warming”; Dr. Mike Hulme, professor of climate change at the University of East Anglia (home of the Climategate e-mails); Dr. Richard Courtney, U.K. atmospheric scientist, liberal-left environmentalist, and an expert reviewer for the UN’s IPCC; Dr. Claude Allegre, a renowned French geophysicist, a former French Socialist Party leader and one of the pioneers of global-warming alarmism; and Dr. Patrick Moore, a leader and founding member of Greenpeace, to name but a few in a long list of defectors.

• Scientists and journalists who have dug into the sources of the alleged scientific consensus on climate change have <b<uncovered a series of incredible frauds. The citations, which appear on the surface to be authoritative surveys representing the consensus of thousands of scientists, turn out to be grossly manipulated data and super-exaggerated numbers. (Articles and studies taking apart the surveys that claim to prove scientific consensus on AGW can be accessed here, here, here, here, and here.)

(much more ... interesting article)


Bears
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All hail King Obama!! All bow to King Obama!!
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All hail King Obama!! All bow to King Obama!!

You are so predictable.

.... as is the response that is forming in your mind as your read this... undoubtedly has the phrase "water carrier" in it somewhere.
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You are so predictable.

.... as is the response that is forming in your mind as your read this...


You are so predictable .... again, the president is threatening to ignore Congress as part of our government .... and you dont seem to be concerned.

Remember .... like him or not, every sin Obama commits against the process of government will no longer be a sin for the next President, but an accepted way things can be done.


Bears
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"You are so predictable.

.... as is the response that is forming in your mind as your read this... undoubtedly has the phrase "water carrier" in it somewhere"

Yeah, Bill, I suppose you are A-OK with Obama bypassing congress as he does with everything, when he can't get his way.

A typical dictator mentality. And you approve. Not surprising coming from a ultra left-wing partisan perspective.
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BTW I don't expect you to take a position here. This is your modus operandi.
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You are so predictable .... again, the president is threatening to ignore Congress as part of our government .... and you dont seem to be concerned.

Remember .... like him or not, every sin Obama commits against the process of government will no longer be a sin for the next President, but an accepted way things can be done.


I agree.

But the hootin' and hollerin' that passes for dialogue here at PA isn't going to solve a thing.

Nemesis has me pegged as an ultra-left wing socialist water carrier for Obama. Perhaps you do too.

Who here has ever been convinced of an argument made by someone with whom they disagree?

Nope... instead, we sit around tossing in phrases like "water carrier" and "Hail King Obama" as if that solves anything.

Just ranting... I'm really thinking of removing myself from this atmosphere... to which I have contributed, by the way, so I am not exempting myself.
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"Nope... instead, we sit around tossing in phrases like "water carrier" and "Hail King Obama" as if that solves anything.
"

Take a position Bill instead of playing commentator to others. Won't hold my breath.
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Take a position Bill instead of playing commentator to others. Won't hold my breath.

Go back and re-read my reply to bears.

First two words.
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"Go back and re-read my reply to bears.

First two words. "

So, I take it that you believe Obama is wrong to make executive orders regarding Climate Change?
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So, I take it that you believe Obama is wrong to make executive orders regarding Climate Change?

You would be correct.

But I can say that without resorting to the nonsense spouted on a regular basis- Hail King Obama!, Socialist!, Black radical!....

Really! This place is a wasteland.

Everyone gets put in an easily defined box. This goes for both sides.

For instance, I don't know how many times you've been tagged with being a Christian fundamentalist, which you are not.

It's simply nonsense, Nem, and I really need to do other things with my life than spend another hour here.

No offense.. I understand the seduction of posting here, as well as anyone.. but it-just-seems-so-pointless.
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Bill, I have been here long enough to care less about what you or any other poster thinks or writes about me. At least, since I started posting, PA has never been about people having rational discussions. Early on, I attempted and got fed up with the nonsense. So, now, for me, it's about having fun. Making fun of liberals and their asinine beliefs and ideas is FUN.
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Bill, I have been here long enough to care less about what you or any other poster thinks or writes about me. At least, since I started posting, PA has never been about people having rational discussions. Early on, I attempted and got fed up with the nonsense. So, now, for me, it's about having fun. Making fun of liberals and their asinine beliefs and ideas is FUN.

Then I leave you to it- along with all of the other poop throwers.
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Do you have a link to this propaganda piece from somewhere other than La LA Land?

proton
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It's simply nonsense, Nem, and I really need to do other things with my life than spend another hour here.

Then I leave you to it- along with all of the other poop throwers.

_________________________________

"Now, the telephone rang, an' it jumped off the wall,
That was the preacher, a-makin' his call.
He said, "Kind friend, this may the end;
An' you got your last chance of salvation of sin!"

The churches was jammed, and the churches was packed,
An' that dusty old dust storm blowed so black.
Preacher could not read a word of his text,
An' he folded his specs, an' he took up collection,
Said:

So long, it's been good to know yuh;
So long, it's been good to know yuh;
So long, it's been good to know yuh.
This dusty old dust is a-gettin' my home,
And I got to be driftin' along."

Anyone want to start a poll or take bets how long Bill will be gone this time? Funny thing about Bill, he always returns... ;)
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Do you have a link to this propaganda piece from somewhere other than La LA Land?

proton


US News and World Report?

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/02/22/obama-adminis...
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I agree that there is much other stuff that can be more productively pursued than tilting at windmills with the extreme right-wing here; however, I like to be reminded often of how much ignorance-approaching-evil there is right around one. It keeps me (i) from getting too complacent that people are good (many are, a significant number are not) and (ii) examining my beliefs to be sure that they continue to be most likely correct based on facts as known.

One thing I am curious about when the right-wingers complain about left-wing extremists, is who are they talking about? The U.S. really doesn't have much of a left-wing, let alone an extreme left wing. I think what the right means by "extreme left-wing" is anyone who disagrees with them.

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1.)These Sheeple deserve their Constitution slowly shredded, their rights curtailed, AND their so-called form of government slowly becoming a dictatorship so I salute my President.


2.)Nothing in politics lasts forever.

3.)Eventually a Republican will be President.

4.)Maybe a REpublican and Mr Dobson can bypass Congress.

5.)Liberals approved the behavior.

Obama's legacy sealed.

It's time to destroy and Obama is doing just that.

Go!

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Global Warming is their ONE issue that furthers a ONe World agenda, hurts America's standard of living and economy, transfers wealth FROM America to others, and allows Liberals to control even more of people's lives.

They'll never let this one go.

They hate science so they won't look at data.

I miss the good ol days. When they only cared about freeing rapists and destroying innocent fetuses.

JediG
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Me...Do you have a link to this propaganda piece from somewhere other than La LA Land?

Bears...US News and World Report?

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/02/22/obama-adminis......

The strangest thing happened when I clicked on your link. I saw subtitles to things like:

Flowers blooming historically early
World coffee supply threatened by climate change
Global Warming could devastate economy
100 million could die from climate change by 2030

But I didn't see anything you claimed was in the article. It is a mystery to me how you wingnuts have come to live in an alternate fact free universe. You collectively use an interesting method of arriving at what you consider truth. One of you makes an off the wall claim that has no relationship to the world the rest of us are forced to live in. Then a second wingnut chimes in with agreement and then a third. It is truth by committee, but unfortunately no matter how many illiterate wingnuts want the claim to be true, their desire for it to be true has no effect on it actually being true. That must be very frustrating to wingnuts and possibly accounts for so many of you being ash wholes.

You might find life more enjoyable if you joined the rest of us in reality.


proton
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The strangest thing happened when I clicked on your link. I saw subtitles to things like:


No doubt, you will not look for yourself, and no doubt, you will not believe anything unless spoken from the horses mouth

Here is Obama's 2013 State of the Union speech. Twist it as you may, but the man is threatening to again bypass the constitutional government and attempt to be King.


But for the sake of our children and our future, we must do more to combat climate change. Yes, it’s true that no single event makes a trend. But the fact is, the 12 hottest years on record have all come in the last 15. Heat waves, droughts, wildfires, and floods – all are now more frequent and intense. We can choose to believe that Superstorm Sandy, and the most severe drought in decades, and the worst wildfires some states have ever seen were all just a freak coincidence. Or we can choose to believe in the overwhelming judgment of science – and act before it’s too late.

The good news is, we can make meaningful progress on this issue while driving strong economic growth. I urge this Congress to pursue a bipartisan, market-based solution to climate change, like the one John McCain and Joe Lieberman worked on together a few years ago. But if Congress won’t act soon to protect future generations, I will. I will direct my Cabinet to come up with executive actions we can take, now and in the future
, to reduce pollution, prepare our communities for the consequences of climate change, and speed the transition to more sustainable sources of energy.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/us/politics/obamas-2013-st...

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Bears...No doubt, you will not look for yourself, and no doubt, you will not believe anything unless spoken from the horses mouth


Be sure to save enough bread crumbs to find your way home.

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You seem to have nailed it, Bill; your OP led to the admission below that his only goal is to incite--not to attract adherents, solidify consensus, or sway opinion. Just to spew.

It is possible, of course, to improve on such a standard. But as long as ad hominem is the preferred rhetorical tool, we won't get far.


Steve

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<<Bill, I have been here long enough to care less about what you or any other poster thinks or writes about me. At least, since I started posting, PA has never been about people having rational discussions. Early on, I attempted and got fed up with the nonsense. So, now, for me, it's about having fun. Making fun of liberals and their asinine beliefs and ideas is FUN.>>
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But . . . but . . . but, proton, they're just airing the "other side" on anthropomorphic climate change. You know: there are at least two sides to every issue, right? And not acknowledging the validity of their "other side" is clearly a form of liberal fascism. By not granting due deference to continuing claims that-- in essence--the earth is flat, we are threatening the Right with totalitarianism.

Funny thing is, of course, that journalists--most of whom, demographically, are pretty liberal--have greatly encouraged this exploitation of false equivalence. Every report in the MSM on clearly established scientific data has to include a "rebuttal," no matter how intellectually flimsy. It's only "fairness"--a quality conservatives supposedly decry, but not when it comes in handy.

Steve
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"But I didn't see anything you claimed was in the article. It is a mystery to me how you wingnuts have come to live in an alternate fact free universe. You collectively use an interesting method of arriving at what you consider truth. One of you makes an off the wall claim that has no relationship to the world the rest of us are forced to live in. Then a second wingnut chimes in with agreement and then a third. It is truth by committee, but unfortunately no matter how many illiterate wingnuts want the claim to be true, their desire for it to be true has no effect on it actually being true. That must be very frustrating to wingnuts and possibly accounts for so many of you being ash wholes.

You might find life more enjoyable if you joined the rest of us in reality.


proton"
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You might find life more enjoyable if you joined the rest of us in reality.


proton"



"Here man, take a little sip of this KoolAid ... little sip cant hurt you and you will feel sooooo much better when you are with "US" :)
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Who here has ever been convinced of an argument made by someone with whom they disagree?
I think you have.
I know Dov has.

Not me though.
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Global Warming is their ONE issue that furthers a ONe World agenda, hurts America's standard of living and economy, transfers wealth FROM America to others, and allows Liberals to control even more of people's lives.

They'll never let this one go.

They hate science so they won't look at data.

I miss the good ol days. When they only cared about freeing rapists and destroying innocent fetuses.

JediG
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LOL. It's the issue that allows them conversation Jedi. Republicans have shorter attention spans. Remember the days when you could shoot the crap with the guys, and talk about tax cuts for job creators? I do. Miss them as well. We used to be able to talk about how high revenues would go if we further reduced taxes for the wealthy.

Then Obama got his way, Raised taxes for the wealthy, and proved you right. Just a drop in the bucket, no change at all.
But I digress.

I live in an area where the liberal arts scientists can drink beer from a local microbrewery, and trash the very people that allowed them to eat and go to their activist meetings that day. They will soon shed their suspicions of adulthood, as they get their jobs in industry, and join the ranks of the personally greedy and self-fulfilling as those before them did.

But yes, they will continue to spout about global warming and other such social niceties, all the while plotting their next effort at work to undercut and get their fellow worker terminated. Free health care is in there somewhere.
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