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"Anyway, at some point you Bushite conservatives are going to have to decide. Can the Prez affect the economy. Because you can't just say that a Prez can only hurt the economy, and cannot do anything to help the economy."

Of course a President can help the economy, however, when your economy is the growth engine for most of world the biggest thing he can do is limit the harm. When most folks say the President can not help the economy only hurt it, they are talking on a short term basis. A president through what they move into action can devestate an economy on a short term basis, a mistake is immediately worked into the system and has far quicker impact than a correct move which will potentially have decades of impact. A great economic decision may even not be evident, many conservatives laud Bush's tax cuts, did they start an immediate huge growth spurt? No they didn't, did they stop what could have been a landslide into a deep recession? That can not be easily answered.

As a conservative I believe the 'economy' is best left alone, regulated to create a level playing field and a degree of transparancy. The government when it introduces costs or falsely gives one industry or company an advantage through some action tax or subsidy can cause unexpected harm, and a very limitted benefit. When it adds costs via taxation etc, it can not help but hurt the international trading perspective.

So government policy does impact buisnesses positively and negatively, but the positive will almost never show a short term impact as the negative ofttime will.
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