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"I am confused - are you advocating taking away the licenses of people who had not broken any other laws, other than driving while under the influence?"

I'm sorry for the confusion. No, I'm just using it as an example as a law that is designed to minimize death in society. I don't advocate this as an individual, and I agree it's not a libertarian law.

I'll try to make myself clearer. My essential point is that I don't believe that laws should be judged *alone* by the volume of lives that are saved/cost, and I don't believe anyone else who really thinks about it seriously actually believes that as well. Otherwise we could easily pass laws that will lower the amount of lives lost on the highway at the expense of some economic activity (the lower economic activity would cost some lives but less suppose we know that it costs less than the number of lives saved on the highway).

The fact is, there *is* a value that we all put on human life. And if we assume you're correct (I'm not really sure) that physician-assisted suicide laws lead to more suicides from irrational actors, I believe that that is a cost of freedom in society.

Death is a cost of economic activity and freedom in society. And if you don't like it, then think about how draconian our laws could be in order to preserve life.

The leaders of all countries (and this one) make value judgements on other people's lives *daily*. This is *unseemly*, and people don't really want to think about it, but it's there nonetheless. A Libertarian asks that the individual have as much control over making the value judgement over his/her own life. In my opinion, death isn't even close to the worst thing that could happen to me. But that's just my opinion. Would you like me to make that judgement for you? Would you like Ted Kennedy to make that judgement for you?

And medical proxies can be generated for a person when he/she is rational so that when he/she is suffering from mental illness, his/her rational wishes are clear. Isn't that better than the government making a blanket decision the same for everybody?

"Give me liberty or give me death" - Patrick Henry

I understand you don't consider yourself a libertarian, but I'm just trying to get you to understand better the libertarian viewpoint. In my "conversion" to libertarian thinking, understanding better the libertarian viewpoint made me realize I was on the wrong side of a number of issues. But that's just me :)

-JAR
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