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Per this thread, there's some interest in experiences with the new 2-shot shingles vaccine.

https://boards.fool.com/shingles-shot-34148367.aspx?sort=who...


I got the first shot 2 months ago, and had a much stronger reaction than expected.

I got the second shot about 12 noon, Wednesday, 8 May, again at the pharmacy in HEB, my local grocery store. The tech asked if I'd reacted to the first, and I replied yes, that I had felt like I had the flu for 24 hours. He said that was normal, and that this second would be worse.

Uhmm... Say what?!?

The injection was like getting hit in the shoulder.

I took 2 tablets of acetaminophen and napped much of the afternoon, and after about 10 hours, my shoulder was hurting! I took 2 acetaminophen, slept all night. Thursday, my shoulder muscle was extremely painful, the muscles around my shoulder (shoulder blade, pectorals, the muscles of my neck) all were tight and painful. I slept/napped most of the day. I took ibuprofen Thursday evening, and slept all night. Friday morning, most of the pain and tightness was gone. Friday evening, and I'm ... 90% recovered?

I was lethargic, but didn't really feel like I had a flu or cold. I just felt ill and weak.

The painful shoulder and tight muscles sucked. Bending and twisting my neck was painful, moving/raising my arm hurt. I was stiff and uncoordinated. My back, hips, and legs were all affected.

FWIW
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ralph still thinks that if this prevents a shingles experience, then it's been worth it.
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ralph still thinks that if this prevents a shingles experience, then it's been worth it.

And I think Ralph is both wise and correct. Shingles is like your car wandering into the lane of on coming traffic. Almost no result is good and most are regrettable.
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I had the original shot about 2-3 years ago. I talked to the pharmacist where I volunteer about the new shot. She said they didn't have any but took my name to be put on a list. She called a day or so later to confirm I was on the list but reminded me that it would probably be another 3 months or so before her shipment would arrive. This is a Walgreens inside a hospital.

Regards,

ImAGolfer
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Had ‘em both. No reaction to either. YMMV, and apparently does.
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I’ve had all sorts of shots over the years but the Shingrix shot...both of them were the most painful of them all...it took a couple of weeks for my arm to feel better and I stayed active throughout but it was unbelievable how painful and stiff my arm felt. Whatever is in it, it sure is powerful stuff.

Lucky Dog
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"Whatever is in it, it sure is powerful stuff.

Lucky Dog "

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probably related to the resurgence of free-range chickens.
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Free range imaginations perhaps....hope you are safe down there during the stormy weather.

Lucky perro
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Hey Howie, are you on Medicare?
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"are you on Medicare?"

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Yes.
Standard Medicare with Supplemental and Part D. DW and I
are covered by the same supplemental coverage but we have different
Part D coverage.
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Do you have Medicare A and B and Plan D?

They have different terminology which is freaking confusing.

LD
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"Do you have Medicare A and B and Plan D? They have different terminology which is freaking confusing." - LD


A. Part A pays for hospital

B. Part B pays for Doctors and stuff A doesn't pay for.

C. "Supplemental" which is stuff that A & B don't pay for.

D. "Drugs" drug coverage.

If you want dental & vision you have to buy them on the side yourself.

Intercst says that "Medicare Advantage" plans are scams that health insurance companies sell. Beware!

Be aware that even a small percentage of healthcare can add up to big bucks. Nothing concerning healthcare in the United States is cheap. The number #1 reason for bankruptcy in the United States is health care. It is even possible to go bankrupt even if you have healthcare. There are limits on some policies on how much they will pay and it is very easy to go over those limits. There is no limit to the greed of doctors and hospitals. A lot of doctors become doctors because they want to become rich. If you can't pay your healthcare bills they will turn you over to collection agencies and they can ruin you.

Art
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C. "Supplemental" which is stuff that A & B don't pay for.

I don't think that's quite right Art. Part C is the Medicare Advantage scam. See "Note" at link.

https://www.medicare.gov/what-medicare-covers/your-medicare-...

There is an additional Supplement option for Part B that can pick up most of what is not covered depending on level selected I believe.
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"Do you have Medicare A and B and Plan D? They have different terminology which is freaking confusing." - LD</b.

A. Part A pays for hospital

B. Part B pays for Doctors and stuff A doesn't pay for.

C. "Supplemental" which is stuff that A & B don't pay for.

D. "Drugs" drug coverage.


Using "C." in your list to reference Medicare Supplemental insurance is a little misleading. Medicare Part C is used to reference Medicare Advantage Plans. These are commercial insurance plans that provide the same medical coverage as Medicare Part A and Medicare Part B through a HMO network. They cost the same as Medicare Part B coverage and can be paid via a deduction from your Social Security benefit.

Medicare supplemental insurance plans start with Medicare Plan F. I think that Medicare Plan N is currently the last of the supplemental insurance plans.

When I retired, my wife and I, initially, signed up for Medicare Plan F that included Medicare Part D coverage and provided additional coverage for Medicare Part A and Part B. It provided the same level of medical insurance that we had through my employer's insurance plan.

We soon realized that this was a total waste of money. We switched to a Medicare Advantage Plan (Medicare Part C) that included prescription drug coverage. My wife was assigned a local doctor as her primary care physician. I have yet to discover where my assigned primary care physician is located.

As far as I'm concerned HMOs suck, bigely! I'm going to drop Medicare Advantage and replace it with Traditional Medicare. It should be easier to find a local doctor that accepts Medicare than it is to find a local doctor in the Medicare Advantage Plan's HMO network.
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"I don't think that's quite right Art. Part C is the Medicare Advantage scam. See "Note" at link." - kitsapkidd


Well like Luckydog says "it's complicated." I am on Medicare part A but since my wife is still teaching I chose to stay on her health insurance because she pays for it through her work. I don't have a clue how much extra she has to pay to keep me on her policy and I don't think she does either? It's a good deal to me but.....

I have had several of those "surprise bills" appear in the mail lately from my dermatologist and ophthalmologist. You know "insurance pays this much, you own this much" kind of bills. Over the course of a year it's less than what I would have had to pay to have medicare so I just stay on the blue cross policy even though I'm philosophically opposed to capitalist for profit insurance companies having anything to do with healthcare.

Art
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I have had several of those "surprise bills" . . . so I just stay on the blue cross policy

This depends on the kind of policy you have. Preferred provider plans and HMO's often have network doctors. Too bad if you need medical attention in an area where their network is sparse.

Medicare Supplemental does not have this problem. You can go to any provider who accepts Medicare.

Medicare Advantage often has networks. The monthly fees are low, sometimes zero (in addition to Medicare payments). But if you are ill, they can get you. Co-pays can go to hundreds of thousands.
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"Medicare Advantage often has networks. The monthly fees are low, sometimes zero (in addition to Medicare payments). But if you are ill, they can get you. Co-pays can go to hundreds of thousands." - paul


Which is probably why intercst says to avoid them. I'd like to use stronger language here but I've gotten warnings from the Motley Fool about my potty mouth.

I'm pretty sure I'd be much happier with a healthcare system like Canada's. I won't see it my lifetime.

Art
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So you don't mind waiting and waiting for treatment?

"This edition of Waiting Your Turn indicates that, overall, waiting times for medically necessary treatment have in-creased since last year. Specialist physicians surveyed report a median waiting time of 21.2 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of treatment—longer than the wait of 20.0 weeks reported in 2016. This year’s wait time—the longest ever recorded in this survey’s history—is 128% longer than in 1993, when it was just 9.3 weeks."

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/waiting-your-turn-wa...

My good friend Geoff was on the waiting list in the UK. For 80 year olds, the wait type for bypass surgery was 18 months. THe younger folks got priority..... he died after waiting 17 months......

21 weeks is almost half a year!


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I had no reaction to the first shot which was ages ago. Second shot seems not available in my area!@!!

Birgit
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Get yourself on the waiting list with your doctor or pharmacy. Ours called us when our shots were available.
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