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Anyone tried this out? They’ve got a new one but I heard it makes you tired all weekend
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Stock Goddess asks,

Anyone tried this out? They’ve got a new one but I heard it makes you tired all weekend

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Getting shingles is definitively worse.

The new vaccine (Shingrix) is 2 doses (second dose must be administered six months later.) It's also not a live virus vaccine (it's genetically modified, like much of the food we eat) so more people will likely be able to take it.

Vaccine costs $280, but the latest 2019 list of free preventative care items under Obamacare includes Shingix (click on Herpes Zoster.) Thank you President Obama.

https://www.healthcare.gov/preventive-care-adults/

intercst
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Anyone tried this out? They’ve got a new one but I heard it makes you tired all weekend

I got mine some time ago, and finally badgered the Countess into getting one just two weeks ago.

CNC
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Anyone tried this out?

A golfing buddy got the shingles and I decided I didn't want any part of that so I got the singles shot. This was about 2-3 years ago. I understand they now have a two shot routine but I haven't opted to get one. I talked to the pharmacy about it but at the time they had not received a supply yet.
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All the local pharmacies have been out of the vaccine for some months. I wonder why.

Trini
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All the local pharmacies have been out of the vaccine for some months. I wonder why.

Trini


The Countess had to get on a waiting list for hers.

CNC
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Got the one that was available a few years ago. It made a huge red itchy welt on my arm that latest several days. My understanding is that the new shot causes an even more pronounced immune response so I'm not real sure I want to get it. My whole arm my blow up.

Peace,
Dana
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Got the one that was available a few years ago. It made a huge red itchy welt on my arm that latest several days. My understanding is that the new shot causes an even more pronounced immune response so I'm not real sure I want to get it. My whole arm my blow up.

Peace,
Dana


Mine (several years ago) produced no particular reaction. Ditto the Countess's shot last week.

I understand that only the one shot is required for protection forever.

CNC
... Wish I could say the same about the pneumonia shot. The second one made my arm swell (and ache) and I was shivering - cold and slightly sick.
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You do NOT want shingles! I had the earlier shingles shot several years ago and still got shingles. It was on my face and even had a shingles scab on my ear drum. Two months of constant pounding until the scab finally fell off. They tried without success to suck it out.

Then it attacked the cornea of my eye. Burning, itchy eye and blurry vision! I’ve been dealing with the cornea issue since Nov. 28th. I can’t count how many times I’ve had to go see my ophthalmologist. Earlier last month after the third attack wasn’t improving, my ophthalmologist decided I needed to see a cornea specialist. I’ve had much improvement with the specialist but she told me I’ll probably have to take prescription eye drops for the rest of my life!

As soon as I’m off the anti-viral medication for a week I can get the first of the two new Shinrex shots and I will. The side effects can not be as bad as what I’ve been through! DH saw what I was having to deal with and he got his first Shinrex shot and didn’t have any side effect. He said his arm hurt a little the next two days. He was lucky because you can have side effects.

DH did a lot of research. The company that makes the Shinrex can’t keep up with the demand. The old shots are 50 to 70 percent effective. The new Shinrex is 90 to 95 effective.

Utahtea
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utahtea writes,

Then it attacked the cornea of my eye.

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Same thing happened to David Letterman in 2003. He was off TV for a month. You don't mess with shingles anywhere on your face or head.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/letterman-returns-to-late-show/...

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Several years ago my wife and I had the old shingles shot. Last year our doctor recommended that we get the new shot. We got ourselves on the waiting list and finally got both shots. My only reaction to the second shot was a sore arm for a day or two. It is a larger shot than the first so the pharmacist said it was just intramuscular pain. The discomfort was immediate.

My wife who reacts to most shots had soreness from the first one. On the second she had both the arm soreness and flu-like symptoms for a day minus any fever.

3 or 4 years ago my brother got shingles on his face. At some point he will need a corneal transplant because it affected eye.
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<<Vaccine costs $280, but the latest 2019 list of free preventative care items under Obamacare includes Shingix (click on Herpes Zoster.) Thank you President Obama.
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Typical. It's FREE under Obamacare, but widely unavailable as a result of that.



Seattle Pioneer
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SP complains,

Typical. It's FREE under Obamacare, but widely unavailable as a result of that.

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I sent my doctor an e-mail asking to schedule the vaccine. Since my area of WA State is a hotbed of anti-vaxers (we currently have a measles epidemic), perhaps there's less of a wait. <LOL>

intercst
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I have been administered both, main and booster. All the local pharmacies have had problems getting the vaccine and there is a waiting list.
Unlike a flu shot, I did not experience any difficulties except for a slightly sore arm for a day or so - no big deal.

arahfool
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CNC wrote
Mine (several years ago) produced no particular reaction. Ditto the Countess's shot last week.

I understand that only the one shot is required for protection forever.


You did not get the newest Shingles shot "years ago" because the newest one did not exist 15 months ago.

The first shingles shot was advertised as lasting a long time. That turns out to be wrong.

Efficacy of old vaccine drops after a few years, dramticaly if you are over 65. Old vaccine is 64% effective vs 97% for the new one for a 65 year old vaccinated at age 50. At 80 the old one is less than 20% effective.
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All the local pharmacies have been out of the vaccine for some months. I wonder why.


The vaccine can only be stored for a few days,then it decomposes.Because it can't be warehoused like the flu shots,no one will have much on hand.The local pharmacies have a LONG waiting list for months.

Medicare didn't cover a penny of the several hundred dollar cost.

I felt like I had all severe flu symptoms the weekend I got it.

Even so,it's worth every penny.I had shingles in the eye & don't want it back.It felt like I had ground glass in them.
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About 9 months ago, my doc recommended I get the Shingrix vax, (I'd already gotten the previous vax, a couple years ago). The Dr/hospital/hmo related pharmacy kept telling me the vax was unavailable, back ordered, for 6 months.

About a month ago, I had occasion to be at the pharmacy in HEB, the local big chain grocery, and noticed their sign advertising the shingles vaccine. They had it! I verified it was Shingrix, and made plans to get it after some travel.

I called the "official" pharm... Still didn't have it.

This thread about the shingles vaccine prompted me to get it done.

I stopped by, verified again it is Shingrix, that my insurance will cover it with no co-pay, that it was not "old, stored too long, etc", and I was vaccinated. 😀. I will get the second injection in May or so.

The person administering the injection said the shelf life of 6 hours begins with reconstitution, and she "reconstituted" (mixed) a couple of components in front of me.

Check with your local for-profit pharmacies?

They did say that they've had "back orders", too.

No shoulder or arm pain, so far. I don't usually react to injections or vaccines, so I'm not really expecting any adverse reaction either.

😀💉😀
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I had my first one a week ago. Second one will be at the end of April. No real side effects to speak of so far. I caught chicken pox three times pre-1965, twice in the hospital.
Joe
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I was told by the pharmacist to get my second shot two to six months after the first one. My HMO covered it only if I got it at the pharmacy, as is the case with my yearly flu vaccination.
Joe
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<<Check with your local for-profit pharmacies? >>




I'm wondering if intercst would prefer to take his chances with the virus....!


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Didn't make me tired but sure as hell made my arm sore for several days

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I had it several years ago -- Shingles is scary stuff, painful and debilitating. I've thought abut getting the new shot but I'm in the process of making procrastination into an art form. Does anyone know if Medicare covers it?
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My grandmother had recurring shingles on her abdomen. Terribly painful each time. That was in the 70s and 80s. I suppose there was no vaccine or effective treatment back then.
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FoolishWaldo =

Traditional Medicare does not cover any vaccine - However your Medicare Part-D (or Advantage) plan may cover it. In terms of the insurance system this is not like an office visit. It is classed as a prescription drug.

For many viruses it is not common to have these multiple times. Shingles is one that people's second occurrence is not rare.
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" Does anyone know if Medicare covers it?"

It didn't for dW & I
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Antivirals can be very effective.

Five years ago, a 50 yr old friend had cancer, treated with chemotherapy and radiation and his med team warned him to watch for shingles. At the first sign, he was given some antivirals, which suppressed the shingles.

All I can say is that the rash didn't cause him significant discomfort, and went away in 10 days to 2 weeks.

I get oral cold sores/fever blisters. If I recognize it early enough, Abreva OTC antiviral cream, suppresses it very well. If I recognize it a bit later, Abreva usually still suppresses it.

If I don't use Abreva, the cold sore will get 3-5 mm diameter, persist for 2-3 weeks, and be annoying/painful. Sometimes, it will seem to spread, either into the surrounding skin, or other sores will erupt nearby.

Abreva suppresses all that.

The key is recognize it early, and treat with appropriate antivirals.

💉. My shoulder is mildly sore at the injection site. Last evening, I was mildly nauseous and my mid back was tender. I have NO idea if those were related to the vax.

🙂
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Ok. The last 8 hours, I'm feeling rather ill. Just general malaise, low energy like a cold. And coughing some.

My shoulder injection site is sore in a way it wasn't earlier.

I'm tired, but could not nap earlier.

It appears that I am having a reaction to the vax, which is rare... Possibly a first?

I'm gonna do some NSAIDs and go to bed.

FWIW
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ralph
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Your reaction matches mine. I had a similar reaction to the first pneumonia vaccine, but not to the second. My wife had almost no reaction to the Shingrix, but discomfort to the first pneumonia vaccine. People are different.
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"It appears that I am having a reaction to the vax, which is rare... Possibly a first? "

I had the same thing.I got the injection on a Friday,& felt that way all weekend.But like I said,I'd do it again in an instant.
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Does anyone know if Medicare covers it

From the MedicareInterractive web site

Original Medicare: You pay nothing (no deductible or coinsurance) for most preventive services when you see a participating provider.
Preventive services recommended by the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force are covered at 100% of the Medicare-approved amount (zero cost-sharing), but for other services you may be charged Original Medicare cost-sharing.
You may be charged if you see a non-participating or opt-out provider.


https://www.medicareinteractive.org/get-answers/medicare-cov...

However, according to the AARP web site...

Unlike most other common vaccines, which are covered under Part B, Medicare coverage for the shingles shot is only available if you’re enrolled in a stand-alone Part D drug plan or a Medicare Advantage plan that includes Part D drug coverage.

https://www.aarp.org/health/medicare-qa-tool/does-medicare-c...

We are covered under the Kaiser Senior Advantage Medicare Advantage plan and it does cover, without a deductible, the shingles vaccine, as well as the pneumonia vaccine.

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I sometimes think that the real purpose of Medicare and Supplemental
Insurance is to ensure that no one will ever know if a test, procedure
or prescription is covered or what anything really costs until you
have committed to the procedure.

Howie52
Such is the cell phone bill culture
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My wife (56) and I (55) got it last year. First shot made me weirdly feverish for a day. Second one knocked me down for two. But a friend of mine had shingles and that sounded NASTY.
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But a friend of mine had shingles and that sounded NASTY.

That's me....I'm the Shingles poster person for my friends. They see what I'm going though and want no part of it. Friends who swore they would never get the shingles shot are getting it!

Down to three different medications and two of them twice a day.

Utahtea
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I was getting a prescription filled at my Safeway grocery pharmacy today and asked about the Shingles inoculation. They are, of course, out of the vaccine, but said they'd put me on their list.


Seattle Pioneer
Age 69

Had the first vaccine ten or so years ago.
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Had the first one 10years ago or so. Probably will get the new one

My mom had shingles when she was 78. Horrible, horrible...kept her from sleeping for six months and never ever really went away.......screwed up nerves in legs...... she had blisters all over for months.

You don't want to take a chance on getting this!


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My CVS has been out of the new shingles shot for over a year now.

Birgit
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According to my Doctor there are no shingles vaccines in Alaska.
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Hi-I thinks the Vaccine you had might still be viable... Not sure, however the Dr will have the duration I viability- . . maybe you wont Need any more!!
Peace. T
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I was on a waiting list for a few months (in L.A.) for the first shot. I finally got the call, but I had the flu and couldn't take it. My doc said to wait a month. So I got back on the list and waited another month and finally got the call yesterday and got the shot. I never get side-effects from shots, but wow, my upper arm is sore today. But a small price to pay to finally get the thing. I guess I'll put myself on the waiting for shot #2 in 2 months. That will give me 4 months to win that lottery in a timely way.

Good luck and wishing you all short waiting lists.

Vivienne
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I got the shingles shot several years ago (even though I don't think I ever had chicken pox). Husband is waiting until he turns 65 to get it. He had shingles about 10 years ago, so I'm puzzled that he's waiting.

What I did just get is two MMR shots. Yup. Told my GP that my mother told me I never had any childhood diseases. He pretty much pooh-pooh'd me because I'm old, but finally offered to do the titer blood test. Well, what do ya know.

I do my best to avoid being around children, but we eat out often and travel a lot by air, and that bug hangs around for hours.

Chili
shingles shot did cause a very sore arm, IIRC
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I got the shingles shot several years ago (even though I don't think I ever had chicken pox). Husband is waiting until he turns 65 to get it. He had shingles about 10 years ago, so I'm puzzled that he's waiting.


Doesn't having it once confer immunity?

CNC
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Older weak Shingles shot not in the same level as newer more effective shingles shot.
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"Doesn't having it once confer immunity?

CNC "
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https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/transcripts/2747_shing...

"Shingles affects one out of every three people in the United States. More than one million cases of shingles are diagnosed every year. The risk of shingles increases as you get older, and about half of the cases occur in men and women ages 50 and older. Shingles develops in about 10 percent of people who have had chickenpox at an earlier time in their life. People at risk for shingles are those who have a weakened immune system (such as people with cancer or HIV), are over the age of 50, have been ill or are under stress or experiencing trauma. People who are diagnosed with shingles usually have only one episode in their lifetime, but a person can have a second or third episode."

The link adds a discussion with Robert Bolash, MD of the Cleveland Clinic.
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By the by - I understand that the vaccine does not prevent shingles or recurrence
but does reduce the severity. Again, the statistics involved may only indicate that
the vaccine is not effective in all the folks who receive the shots.
The terminology is that "the risk of getting shingles is reduced".

Howie52

medicine and healthcare is a complex topic - and sometimes statistics are not as
precise as most folks would like when used to define causes and prevention.
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