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. . . sure makes sense the NRA and gun nuts have floated calls to arm janitors and teachers, or to post cops, in all our schools.

Meanwhile, if your'e driving a pickup truck in Torrance, CA, you've been warned, Son!


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/07/police-swarm-big-bear-...

A short while later Dorner allegedly ambushed two officers waiting at a red light in Riverside, killing one, a veteran, and wounding the other, a trainee.

With dawn yet to break police lashed out but picked the wrong targets. Officers from the Hollywood division shot up a pick-up truck in Torrance, thinking it was Dorner’s grey Nissan, only to find they had wounded two women who were delivering newspapers. They were taken to hospital.

A few minutes later officers in another part of Torrance opened fire on another pick-up driven mistaken for Dorner’s. No one was injured.

Twitter erupted with complaints of trigger-happy police. Local television urged people to avoid using pick-ups until the crisis passed.
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Local television urged people to avoid using pick-ups until the crisis passed.

Don't drive your pickup but carrying your guns is okay.

< SIGH >

Dan
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Good thing we did not drop a Hellfire missile on them.
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A short while later Dorner allegedly ambushed two officers waiting at a red light in Riverside, killing one, a veteran, and wounding the other, a trainee.

With dawn yet to break police lashed out but picked the wrong targets. Officers from the Hollywood division shot up a pick-up truck in Torrance, thinking it was Dorner’s grey Nissan, only to find they had wounded two women who were delivering newspapers. They were taken to hospital.

A few minutes later officers in another part of Torrance opened fire on another pick-up driven mistaken for Dorner’s. No one was injured.

Twitter erupted with complaints of trigger-happy police. Local television urged people to avoid using pick-ups until the crisis passed.


The solution is less guns. Disarm the police!
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The solution is less guns. Disarm the police!

After you disarm the public you could do that. The Brits have that (more or less), and a much lower crime rate than we have.
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The Brits have that (more or less), and a much lower crime rate than we have.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-...

July 2009

Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.

The figures comes on the day new Home Secretary Alan Johnson makes his first major speech on crime, promising to be tough on loutish behaviour.
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In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677.

The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 92 and South Africa 1,609.

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Sorry...my bad. I should have been more precise and said "homicide rate". The US is at 4.8, the UK is at 1.2. We're 4x higher.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentiona...

(Australia, who implemented some strict gun controls several years ago is now at 1.0, though I don't know what it was before the controls.)
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Cmon. Let's not muck around. The number of civilians gunned down in the UK is a fraction of gun deaths in the US, despite idiotic claims to the contrary. Here's the Daily Telegraph quoting an 'alleged' academic mouthpiece from the NRA:

He said: “Great Britain shows the perils of mass confiscation that some people have proposed. It has a higher violent crime rate than the United States and especially high rate of home invasion burglaries.”
Is it necessary to spell out how absurd that claim is? The United States has 10.2 gun deaths per 100,000 people, the UK has 0.25. That means the US has 40 times more deaths per head than the UK.


However, there is no doubt that the UK has seen a shocking rise in violent crime recently. This rise correlates with what some regard as the A) treasonous reign of a morally fiscally bankrupt prime minister who despite inheriting a treasury replete with cash circa 1997, thanks to the sober stewardship of the previous Conservative govt managed to bring the UK to its knees in 13 years. This odious muppet and his acolytes managed to churn thru billions while pursuing a program of idiotic welfare/warfare largesse. Given his program of bankrupt socialist nonsense, this clown couldn't have been an often quoted darling of the American right wing, could he? Au contraire. Many alleged 'conservatives' in the US spent 2001 onwards fawning and tugging their forlocks in celebration of this bankrupt popinjay, as he waxed lyrical about the great altruistic necessity of spreading democracy to selected members of the world's oilfield at the point of a gun. Of course this crew of drooling neocons lost their ideological enthusiasm for Mission Freedom, just about the same time Team Pyramid were inspired to embrace the rhetoric.The rise of violent crime in the UK? That's related to the enthusiastic embrace of toxic US export-

eg X box/media, music, etc,etc, and the inability/reluctance of UK courts to impose sufficiently draconian sentences on violent thugs because of its membership of the EU, another bankrupt organisation promoted by the likes of see point A)
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With dawn yet to break police lashed out but picked the wrong targets. Officers from the Hollywood division shot up a pick-up truck in Torrance, thinking it was Dorner’s grey Nissan, only to find they had wounded two women who were delivering newspapers. A few minutes later officers in another part of Torrance opened fire on another pick-up driven mistaken for Dorner’s.




The civilians would have been able to return fire if they'd been armed! More guns!
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