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thanks silencer. one thing I don't understand in this particular instance is does the wearing of these particular kinds of clothing, long black coats and hats in the summertime, are these considered Talmudic rabbinic prohibitions?

I would have thought they were simply customary among East European Jews and they ahve simply retained their traditional garb.

I'm guessing that the Talmudic rabbinic prohibition is based on a common interpretation that translates into the uncomfortable garb, adn that another orthodox rabbi from a different group might interpret that differently.

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