As many people may be aware- The Fool's site search capability is, well, pretty much useless. Sorry.- There is another free site put up by a member which allows searchingby word in thread name, word in post, author, date, number of recs, and so on.For those who are on boards it indexes, it's hard to imagine living without it.Google is not a close substitute. When trying to find a page thatway (for boards not indexed with that tool), I can find the old postI need only perhaps half the time.Alas, the Fool has just switched their web service to use a tool which prevents exactly the sort of crawling which is necessary to build the index,so this amazing free tool is no longer available for any post after today.For those of us on (say) the Mechanical Investing or Berkshire Hathaway boards,that pretty much removes half the value of the board right there.There is a *lot* of old information in the last 15 years worth searching for.Is there any way to allow this person to continue reading the site to keep the index up to date?He does it at his own cost, and the only one to benefit is Fool.com and its members.Or, alternatively, give him blessing to go ahead and try to finda workaround for the no-crawl technology that has just been implemented.Understandably he doesn't want to break the rules.Personally, in the Fool's shoes, I'd buy the tool from him andset it up for all the site (as it indexes only 11 boards right now),or pay him a little fee to do so as a service to members.I imagine the cost is negligible, and given how breathtakinglyuseless the fool's own search is (sorry again), it would be a big help.In fact, I suspect you could solicit donations to pay for it. I'd contribute.I urge people to give it a whirl. See how it works. Amazing.http://www.datahelper.com/mi/search.phtmlNote that on the results page, you can click on "thread" and see any thread in a hierarchical format so you can see which posts are responses to which others.These are just links to pages at fool.com; he doesn't reproduce the web site.A thread over on the Mechanical Investing board which broke the bad news of its having broken.http://boards.fool.com/no-more-mi-board-index-30938451.aspx?...Jim
Another method at probably lower cost would be to let individual members of TMF pay for an annual subscription to the search service for all boards. Yes it would cost a bit to interface that option, but it would have the effect of building a moat as opposed to the current search which is more like moat draining.
Hi Jim,I've contacted the appropriate people to see if we can whitelist specific persons who collect data benignly. Hopefully it's possible. We had major problems with data scrapers clogging our servers, so we had to do something about it. Unfortunately, some good guys got caught in the net.Richard
Jim,I agree with everything you say. The board search makes the boards so much more useful. If it disappears, I will feel lost.Best,Mark
- The Fool's site search capability is, well, pretty much useless. Sorry.Is it? I know it used to be, but currently it seems to be working perfectly. I just tested it by searching for a few very old posts of mine, and found all of them easily.
I just tested it by searching for a few very old posts...But not so good on recent posts.I ran an experiment a moment ago. I took the phrase once and future index tool from the Subject of this thread and searched on it. Even sorting on Date it did not appear.It is likely someday that search will find this thread, but there is no way to predict when. From reading past complaints I have the impression that a month would not be unusual.
Any news on setting it up so the datahelper index can run again?People have started to post lists of posts on given subjects justto help a bit with the lack of the full index. I know there are several research heavy posts that I didn't dobecause I could not find the right information on the boards. TnxJim
Hi Jim,A developer is ready to work with Mark when he can find the time, but apparently Mark is a busy guy too. Hopefully they can get together soon.Richard
Thanks for the follow up.We'll remain optimistic~~Jim
bump... Looks like datahelper is still pretty dead. Any update on this? Huge part of the value of the boards is lost when we have no way of finding those incredibly useful posts by members who generously volunteer their wisdom and insights.
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