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they had all the leverage a year ago to push for medicare 4 all, climate, when Pelosi was up for speakership but they all rolled over, now could you see Joe Manchin doing that?

Well, at least you mentioned Manchin. Do you understand how a bicameral legislature works? Yeah, House progressives possibly could have forced Pelosi to pass a wish list. Then what? It's not getting through the Senate and the House members whipped to vote for it are providing electoral fodder to the QOP.

And then the House is at more risk then it is right now and "burn it all down" relative to any portion of what you claim to want is exactly what happens.
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