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To be fair, even in my wildest "what havoc could he wreak" thoughts, I did not think Nationwide Unchecked Pandemic, Caged Kids or Economic Depression in mind.

So. We were all wrong, just by varying degrees.

impolite
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Looks like we got the president we deserve.

I was at a dinner party in Santa Fe in September and said "we'll get the president we deserve."

Fork.

Chili
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The pendulum had to swing - it always does at 8 or 12 years.

I was just hoping:
1) It would do it at the 12-year mark; and
2) The GOP nominee wouldn't be a wackadoodle.

I lose!

impolite
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Looks like we got the president we deserve.

impolite


If I may as a complete outsider....

Politicians around the world have been ignoring the people because 'they know best' and we are just dumb people who need to be told how to vote. The EU is a typical example where those at the top with the power to make law are immune to the ballot box.

People are fighting against bland, grey politics. Politicians who seem to be more interested in lining their own pockets than actually listening to what the people want.

They have forgotten that WE employ THEM.

So the US gets Trump. Well that means it's unlikely you will get 4 years of bland, grey politics.

Consider this a reactionary transition period between old and new politics.

Then you have to figure out a way of next time having some nominees who aren't too old or too radical or too nuts who will actually be worth Americas vote.

As an outsider I think Trump is the catalyst you need to shake up the political system and he won't be as bad as you think.

I'm not sure you got the President you deserve but strangely you may have the President you need.

Si
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So the US gets Trump. Well that means it's unlikely you will get 4 years of bland, grey politics.

That just feels like cutting off your nose to spite your face; voting for the Crazy Train because it's not The Old Train, you know? I guess I understand the emotions behind it but would hope logic and reasoning would prevail.

Then you have to figure out a way of next time having some nominees who aren't too old or too radical or too nuts who will actually be worth Americas vote.

Now this we can agree on.

Clinton was the Heir Apparent, so there was no *real* primary to speak of. Sanders was merely a distraction. Hung in there a while, but a distraction.

The GOP didn't put anyone interesting and also qualified out this time, so Interesting And Certainly Not Qualified won the day.

I'm hopeful both parties do a much better job of elevating decent, qualified candidates for their primaries, so that "neither one would suck" is an option next time.

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That just feels like cutting off your nose to spite your face; voting for the Crazy Train because it's not The Old Train, you know? I guess I understand the emotions behind it but would hope logic and reasoning would prevail.

I'm going to guess that Trump will find it hard to pass the more radical plans he has been banging on about for months. Maybe not so crazy?

Clinton was the Heir Apparent, so there was no *real* primary to speak of. Sanders was merely a distraction. Hung in there a while, but a distraction.

The GOP didn't put anyone interesting and also qualified out this time, so Interesting And Certainly Not Qualified won the day.

I'm hopeful both parties do a much better job of elevating decent, qualified candidates for their primaries, so that "neither one would suck" is an option next time.


You need politicians that listen to the people. Well, we all need that across the globe.

The greater majority of us are just ordinary people. And being ordinary we know we have to support the old and vulnerable and at the same time reward personal endevour over sloth. The pendulum should not be permitted to swing too far in either direction. Most of us occupy the middle ground.

There is a test on the internet somewhere which asks you questions and then puts a dot on a graph to show your politics. Most people end up no more than a couple of points off centre.

Germany, France and Holland have elections next year. I think Italy too. The 'establishment' are saying the far right is rising and facism is on it's way back. If you express an opinion that is different to the political elite you are racist, bigoted etc But it's not the far right that is rising, it's the little guy who is fed up of being told to shut up and which way to vote because if you vote the other way you're a damned RACIST!

The little guy wants to be heard. Socialism will wither away, they've had their 15 mins of fame and effed it up.

Si
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People crack me up.

Trump is a liberal. Always has been.

His acting over the last year won him the white house with a congressional majority. His first statement after winning was "rebuild our infrastructure."

We were duped.
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After the field of dozens of GOP candidates was solidified, I said, if an apocalypse happened and I absolutely, positively had to choose one of them, I'd choose Trump. That whole field was BSC and dangerous. Trump, in the past, has made statements that sounded fairly liberal. Plus, you know, he's unelectable. Fork.

However, he really, really showed his rear as a low-class thug, so I walked it back. Too late. There's still not a one of the other candidates I think had/have better policies. Including Kasich.

Chili
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His acting over the last year won him the white house with a congressional majority. His first statement after winning was "rebuild our infrastructure."

I really, truly hope you are correct and not just being optimistic.

I do NOT think he represents the true "GOP platform"*, so I'll allow myself some hope.

impolite

* Which is why it's all shades of WTF that he got past the primaries
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I do NOT think he represents the true "GOP platform"*, so I'll allow myself some hope.


But Pence does. I'm more frightened of Pence's policy than Trumps, but Trump's temperment, lack of dignity, and his mean spirit towards everyone but white males, scares me. Pence has a more normal personality but his views are scary.

Cosmos
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Pence has a more normal personality but his views are scary.


In the one and only political campaign I worked on, I worked against Governor Pence. This was in 1988. I was 18, Mr. Pence had not won any election yet and the Republicans were having a primary election to see who could run against Phillip Sharp, a long time Democrat Congressman.
A Mr. Bright was running against Governor Pence in the primary. Mr. Bright had a part time secretary who was in my study hall and I thought she was rather cute. So when she collected volunteers for the Bright campaign, I was right there. I was in charge of rounding up the vote for Mr. Bright in a certain precinct. While Mr. Bright did indeed win the precinct I was in charge of, he did not win the primary. None of the stories have a happy ending. Mr. Bright lost, Governor Pence lost in the general election, and I never did get a date with that secretary.

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Hey, Wally -- when I was a young college student (1974), I had an internship with Rep. David W. Dennis of Indiana. He was on the House Judiciary Committee and voted against all the Nixon articles of impeachment. In the next election, he was defeated by Phil Sharp. I don't think it was anything I did as a journalism intern. . .Gail
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Ah, our brushes with greatness. People I have stumbled over -
Dan Quayle, Michael Dukakis, and Mike Pence (I met him at another event. I was 20 at the time. I didn't tell him I worked against him in order to meet a girl.) My grandmother told me I'm related to Millard Fillmore, but I couldn't tell you how.

Wally
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This did not age well AT ALL.

I was so so wrong.
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To be fair, even in my wildest "what havoc could he wreak" thoughts, I did not think Nationwide Unchecked Pandemic, Caged Kids or Economic Depression in mind.

So. We were all wrong, just by varying degrees.

impolite
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