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The only surprise is how swiftly it all collapsed around the president and his depleted, inexperienced foreign policy team.

He prefers inexperience.

In any event, he doesn't listen to any of them. As he's told us- he's the only one who is important.

He is the true picture of willful ignorance.

Double dumb...... not only dumb, but ignorant of the fact that he is dumb.

A stable genius for sure
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He prefers inexperience.

In any event, he doesn't listen to any of them. As he's told us- he's the only one who is important.

He is the true picture of willful ignorance.

Double dumb...... not only dumb, but ignorant of the fact that he is dumb.

A stable genius for sure

- wzambon2




https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-followed-his-gut-...


“This president keeps blindsiding our military and diplomatic leaders and partners with impulsive moves like this that benefit Russia and authoritarian regimes,” said Senator Jack Reed, the Rhode Island Democrat and longtime member of the Armed Services Committee.

“If this president were serious about ending wars and winning peace, he’d actually articulate a strategy that would protect against a re-emergence of ISIS and provide for the safety of our Syrian partners,” Mr. Reed added. “But he has repeatedly failed to do that. Instead, this is another example of Donald Trump creating chaos, undermining U.S. interests, and benefitting Russia and the Assad regime.”

The other major beneficiary is Iran, perhaps Mr. Trump’s most talked-about geo-political foe, which has long supported the Syrian regime and sought freer rein across the country.
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<<and abandon America’s longtime allies, the Kurds.>>


I've inquired repeatedly as to the nature of this "alliance." Who negotiated the treaty? When did the Senate ratify it? What are the obligations of each party, and when does it terminate?


Haven't seen word #1 yet.

Compare that to the ally we DO have --- Turkey, as part of a treaty ratified by the United States Senate.



Anyone?


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Who negotiated the treaty?

Treaties are made between nations.

The Kurds in Syria, Iran and Turkey do not have a "nation", and the Kurds in Iraq have only a semi-autonomous region.

One does not make treaties with "groups", but we do have a longstanding agreement with the Syrian Kurds.

They've held up their end of the bargain. We, unfortunately, have not. And we've only begun to see the unraveling consequences of that impulsive decision by Trump- which follows no strategy or logic.

Four years ago, the right-wing was all aflame about defeating Islamic fundamentalists. We needed to "fight them over there instead of over here". And the hatred directed toward all Muslims "over here" led many of you to claim we were being disloyal by not sharing your hatred of them.

Now, apparently, it's a-ok that we're leaving ISIS to reconstitute itself.

Meanwhile, we are abandoning the Kurds who have been doing most of the dying in our fight against ISIS.... as we have abandoned the Kurds twice before.

The only interests served by Trump's utter stupidity- are those of Turkey, Syria, and Iran.

This will not turn out well. In fact, we'll be lucky if it doesn't turn into a first class disaster
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The only interests served by Trump's utter stupidity- are those of Turkey, Syria, and Iran

- wzambon2



Don't forget ISIS.
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The only interests served by Trump's utter stupidity- are those of Turkey, Syria, and Iran

- wzambon2


Don't forget ISIS.

I also forgot the biggest enchilada- Russia
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<<One does not make treaties with "groups", but we do have a longstanding agreement with the Syrian Kurds.>>


Perhaps you can provide a link to this "agreement" with this "group."


<<Meanwhile, we are abandoning the Kurds who have been doing most of the dying in our fight against ISIS.... as we have abandoned the Kurds twice before.>>



So the Kurds have been "helping" us in "our" fight, eh?

What remarkably generous people! It's not like they were expecting us to create a national homeland for the Kurds or anything, right?


No treaty, eh? I seem to recall lots of treaties the United States negotiated with "tribes," when we had a mind to do so. Some even ratified by the United States Senate.

Too bad the Kurds didn't go for a treaty, don;t you think? As it is, the only treaty in the area is the one we have with Turkey.



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Latest reports are the Kurds have opened their arms to Syrian Army Forces who've rushed to re-take the lands the Kurds lived in and which Turkey aimed to annex.

So now there's that.

What if Syrian Army forces + Russian forces & mercenaries + the Kurds join together to push our supposed ally, Turkey, out of Syria completely while free ISIS members melt into the countryside with the 160,000 refugees on the run who have no place to seek aid as the Red Cross pulled its members from that area of Syria yesterday?

Orange 0 has unleashed the perfect shitestorm.

Toss in Iran, and yeah, we'll end up sending more than 3,000 troops as mercenaries to aid Saudi Arabia.
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Anyone?

Is Israel an ally? Where's that treaty?

Schvitz
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No treaty, eh? I seem to recall lots of treaties the United States negotiated with "tribes," when we had a mind to do so. Some even ratified by the United States Senate.

Treaties were made between the United States and tribal nations.

To this day, several hundred tribes are recognized as nations by the U.S.
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<<The federal U.S. government has always been the government that makes treaties with Indian tribes – not individual states. Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution states that "Congress shall have the power to regulate Commerce with foreign nations and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes".>>



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Tribes- which for the purposes of treaties, were, and still are recognized as nations.
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Living in the Northwest, you should know this, SL
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<<Tribes- which for the purposes of treaties, were, and still are recognized as nations.>>


Of course, that is the foolishness of liberals.

As I illustrated, the constitution recognized Indian tribes as tribes.


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