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President Trump's determined effort to exclude undocumented immigrants from the 2020 census has been thwarted at every turn — by the courts, the coronavirus, the Constitution, and now by the clock.

...the final apportionment count won't be delivered to the president until at least Jan. 23, three days after President-elect Joe Biden takes office...

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The Supreme Court blocked Trump in 2019 from adding a citizenship question to the census, and the justices seemed skeptical Monday that Trump can legally exclude undocumented immigrants from the decennial head count. ... The census has never before used citizenship status to apportion congressional representation.


https://theweek.com/speedreads/953055/1-american-dying-covid...
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Why should billions of tax payer dollars to go to illegals?
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Why should billions of tax payer dollars to go to illegals?

Federal tax payer dollars do NOT. A point the right refuses to acknowledge.
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Why should billions of tax payer dollars to go to illegals?

There's no such thing as an "illegal" human being.

You're just greedy and selfish.

SLL
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"There's no such thing as an "illegal" human being.

You're just greedy and selfish.

SLL"

What crazy stuff is this?

We have laws, legal citizens are eligible, if you are not a legal citizen you are not eligible, has nothing to do with being human.
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Why should billions of tax payer dollars to go to illegals?

Why should billions of tax payer dollars to go to the Trump crime family and his money grubbing cohorts
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Why did you shift the discussion from counting people within our borders.... to welfare checks?
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"Why did you shift the discussion from counting people within our borders.... to welfare checks?"

Census is about counting citizens.
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Census is about counting citizens.

Census is about counting persons, not citizens. Article I, Section 2:

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which
may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be
determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to
Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other
Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting
of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in
such Manner as they shall by Law direct.


There is no argument that the Census is limited to citizens. The actual Constitutional language refers to Persons (not citizens), and it expressly includes categories of people that were not citizens (most notoriously slaves, who were counted as 3/5 of a Person for apportionment. Moreover, the Census has always included lawful residents who are not citizens - and there is no argument being made that those who are lawfully here (but are not citizens) should be excluded from the Census.

The only debate being held is whether people who are present in the county but who have violated immigration laws should be counted in the Census - not whether the Census is limited to citizens.

Albaby
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"Why did you shift the discussion from counting people within our borders.... to welfare checks?"

Census is about counting citizens.

Though you are mistaken regarding the proper subjects of the count, you still haven't answered my question.
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Census is about counting citizens.

Wrong.
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It is worth noting that for the majority of our US history, there was no such thing as an "illegal."

Prior to about 1925, if you were someone other than an Asian, you could enter the country legally without permission.

There has been a very long history, dare I call it a precedent, of counting people that are here without permission. There legal status has never had any relevance.
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"The only debate being held is whether people who are present in the county but who have violated immigration laws should be counted in the Census"

That is what i was eluding to with counting citizens. Illegals should not be counted because that logic then states if 100,000,000 million illegals overwhelmed our borders and law enforcement next month and successfully spread out thru the country, then all 100,000,000 million new illegals should be counted in our Census. Seriously, who would be ok with counting these 100,000,000?
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