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Vermonter:"It costs $$$ for dental work nowadays -- especially if we retirees have no coverage, as we may have when we were working.

Have folks here experienced seeking a "second opinion" for a specific issue, one that may cause you to change dentists totally (which is probable if you get ANYTHING done elsewhere, of course)?

I did that once, years ago, and was happy to change. No big deal. The new one simply requested records and off we went.

Just wondering what others have experienced."

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My good friend Charlie used to take a vacation down along the Mexican border and get his tooth work done at 25% or less of the cost of US dentists.....in Mexico.....

Around here....it's expensive......

so brush your teeth...and floss.....you only have to floss the teeth you want to keep.......

I'm at the point where my original fillings from decades ago are going bad and needing refilling...... and I had a pile of them.....before fluoride.....

t.
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For more than ten years I've been getting my dental work done at the OHSU Dental School in Portland. It costs 25% to 50% less than a regular dentist and I've found that they're less likely to recommend an expensive procedure I don't really need to cover the lease payment on a new Mercedes.

intercst
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I never had any problems with dentists until I moved to my current town. I started going to one of the national chain dentists because the office was convenient.

1) I did not find their prices for routine cleaning, exam, and check-up all that agreeable like they say on the TV.

2) My second visit there (a year after the first) all of a sudden I need 5 fillings! Yank job! So, I dumped them and started seeing a new dentist and I'm still waiting for him to notice those cavities. It's been 6 years now. His prices are better too. Just like all my previous dentists


It costs $$$ for dental work nowadays -- especially if we retirees have no coverage, as we may have when we were working.

Have folks here experienced seeking a "second opinion" for a specific issue, one that may cause you to change dentists totally (which is probable if you get ANYTHING done elsewhere, of course)?

I did that once, years ago, and was happy to change. No big deal. The new one simply requested records and off we went.

Just wondering what others have experienced.

Vermonter
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<<Have folks here experienced seeking a "second opinion" for a specific issue, one that may cause you to change dentists totally (which is probable if you get ANYTHING done elsewhere, of course)?>>


I've had the opposite occur.


Several years ago, my regular dentist commented that while there was nothing he could point to that required that several old gold crowns be replaced, he suggested that doing so would be worth doing.


Since then, I've needed several root canals when those old crowns allowed infections to get started in those teeth, which then required new crowns as well. One tooth not only became infected, but caused bone loss extensive enough to require that the tooth be extracted and replaced by an implant, together with a crown to go on the implant. That cost about $7500.

Because of that, I asked my dentist to check the crowns I had to see which ones would be worthwhile replacing to avoid such problems in the future. There was only one such old crown left, and I'm scheduled to have that replaced next week.

I'm now convinced that all those old crowns will have been replaced. But if I had taken the dentist's advice early, I might have avoided several root canals and the extraction and implant.

Waiting for an actual problem to develop in those old crowns was a mistake. The smart move would have been to be more pro active.




Seattle Pioneer
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For more than ten years I've been getting my dental work done at the OHSU Dental School in Portland. It costs 25% to 50% less than a regular dentist and I've found that they're less likely to recommend an expensive procedure I don't really need to cover the lease payment on a new Mercedes.

intercst>>


In my years as a furnace repairman, I found all too often that people had recommendations made to replace equipment when what was needed was competent repair. And all too often, repairmen recommended repairs that weren't needed, or did more than needed to be done.

That led me to conclude that the two most important things to look for in a service provider of any kind were 1) HONESTY and 2) competence.


I actually had a physician ready to remove a growth on my eyelid with liquid nitrogen but at the last minute deciding not to do that, but to refer me to a specialist. That led me to conclude that honesty was MORE IMPORTANT than competence.


Experience with my dentist has led me to conclude that he is both honest and competent. So I continue to use his services and am happy to pay for them.

Still, I appreciate intercst's caution. There are certainly dentists out there who will recommend more in the way of expensive services than are needed. And finding honest and competent service can be difficult to do.


Seattle Pioneer
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"Just wondering what others have experienced.

Vermonter "

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About 15 years back I had a tooth break off. My dentist at the time could not
see me - he said he could fit me in a couple weeks later. I asked folks where I
was working at the time if they knew someone else. I got this guy's name - called him
and he brought me in the next day to see the tooth. He brought me back the
following day and started to fix the problem tooth. Took two sessions to go from a
temporary cap to a permanent one. I have stayed with the new guy ever since.

Howie52
Charges seem reasonable - DW and I do have dental insurance but may not keep it.
For now we are happy having the insurance.
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I use a mobile dentist, where they come to my home to provide the services.

https://smilesbydelivery.com/

Several years ago, I had a problem with a back tooth. The dentist they sent out said it needed to be pulled, but since the tooth went so deep in the jaw, he couldn't do it. It would have to be done in the hospital. Since the tooth wasn't causing me pain, I let it go.

On the next visit, they sent out a different dentist. Much younger than the first. He looked at that tooth and said, "No problem". I hesitantly scheduled the extraction. When he came for that appointment, he wasn't there longer than 20 minutes or so. Went without a hitch. Some pain and bleeding for a few days, but totally expected. He later put an implant there.

He's been the one they've sent out for the last two years, but this year I'm told he's no longer with them.

I wish I had him back.
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Vermonter:"It costs $$$ for dental work nowadays -- especially if we retirees have no coverage, as we may have when we were working.

Have folks here experienced seeking a "second opinion" for a specific issue, one that may cause you to change dentists totally (which is probable if you get ANYTHING done elsewhere, of course)?

I did that once, years ago, and was happy to change. No big deal. The new one simply requested records and off we went.

Just wondering what others have experienced."

--

My good friend Charlie used to take a vacation down along the Mexican border and get his tooth work done at 25% or less of the cost of US dentists.....in Mexico.....

Around here....it's expensive......

so brush your teeth...and floss.....you only have to floss the teeth you want to keep.......

I'm at the point where my original fillings from decades ago are going bad and needing refilling...... and I had a pile of them.....before fluoride.....

t.
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<<I'm at the point where my original fillings from decades ago are going bad and needing refilling...... and I had a pile of them.....before fluoride.....

t.>>



As I mentioned, I had several old gold crowns fail in ways that weren't detected or observed. This led to needing root canals as well as new crowns, and in one case required a tooth extraction and implant.

My dentist had commented that it might be worthwhile to replace those old crows, but I didn't take him up on that suggestion. The result was additional trouble an expense.


So if you trust your dentist, you might ask for advice on what work needs to be replaced, and consider following those suggestions.

When I asked my dentist to repeat his inspection of crowns, he found only one left that he thought should be replaced. I'm having that done next week.


Seattle Pioneer
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Vermonter

Dental "insurance" really has nothing to do with insurance. It is really a cash flow management scheme. I've calculated many times whether dental "Insurance" is worth the cost and with today's restrictions on minimum coverage period or waiting time for certain procedures, makes it almost impossible for the cost of the insurance premiums + deductibles + copays to be less than just pay as you go through consumer shopping. The real value in dental 'insurance' is it incentivizes the insured to put their behind in the dentist's chair at least twice a year.

We have the Kaiser Senior Advantage +Plus Plan, which includes dental, vision wear and hearing aid. Kaiser is very good at making sure we make our semi-annual appointments and I've gotten to know my dental hygienist and dentist there very well. I've had several procedure there over the past several years and am getting ready to do my first implant from a tooth I broke when I yanked on some beef jerky (NICE! Really smooth!!). It didn't break down to the root so was not painful, but Kaiser got me in the next day where the dentist on-call put in a temporary filling (can't remember what he called it) and they made an appointment for me to see my dentist for a full eval and looking at my options the next week...and there was no charge for that visit. We're very happy with the service we've received.

Not sure who said it above, but they're right....floss and use an ultrasound brush, and be diligent in your visits to your hygienist. Wish I would have started doing this 30 years ago!

BruceM
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Not sure who said it above, but they're right....floss and use an ultrasound brush, and be diligent in your visits to your hygienist. Wish I would have started doing this 30 years ago!

I saw a big improvement once I added waterflossing to my routine. My first trip back to the dentist after I started using a WaterPik, the hygienist asked what I was doing different since my gums improved so much.

PSU
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I doubt I'll change dentists unless they retire. I've been going to the same two dentists for about 20 years. While they are not the cheapest, they do good work. My daughter shadowed in the office one summer while considering dental school. She saw first hand some poor work done by other dentists.

PSU
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<<I doubt I'll change dentists unless they retire. I've been going to the same two dentists for about 20 years. While they are not the cheapest, they do good work. My daughter shadowed in the office one summer while considering dental school. She saw first hand some poor work done by other dentists.

PSU>>


Unfortunately, it's difficult to evaluate the competence and honesty of service providers. Years of experience can be a good guide, perhaps.


I've always thought a nice feature of a Christmas car would be suggestions for a roofer, electrician, furnace repairman, financial planner, plumber, dentist and so on.


But I haven't gotten around to doing that.


Seattle Pioneer
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I have dental insurance thru Humana, about $20/month. I had a cavity last year and Humana paid -- they also pay my 2 cleanings a year. They also pay for x-rays ever couple of years (I've opted out of x-rays unless there's "something going on.")

They do not pay for my "deep cleanings" (periodantal) alternate 6 months but I get a 10% senior discounts.

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