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This is a classic case of what you can expect from a conservative Supreme Court.


The Supreme Court on Monday delivered a major victory to corporations by sharply restricting the rights of American workers to join together to challenge their employers for allegedly violating federal laws on wages, overtime pay or civil rights.

The justices by a 5-4 vote agreed with Trump administration lawyers and ruled that employers may enforce so-called individual arbitration agreements that require workers to give up the ability to collectively pursue claims that they were short-changed or treated unfairly.
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Ginsburg said the "inevitable result of today's decision will be the underenforcement of federal and state statutes designed to advance the well-being of vulnerable workers.… One study estimated that in Chicago, Los Angeles and New York City alone, low-wage workers lose nearly $3 billion in legally owed wages each year."


http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-court-workers-2018...

Is this why you want a conservative Supreme Court?
To make it easier for corporations to screw over workers? Is that what America needs?
Individual workers CANNOT enforce their rights against their employers. They do not have the financial resources and staying power. This verdict ensures that they can be abused with impunity.
Well done, Gorsuch. You're just what middle and working class Americans needed.
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The pendulum swings left.....then right..

For at least two decades, the ambulance chasing lawyers and the 'class action' slimeball lawyers have run rampant. The 'slip and fall' lawyers have made BILLIONS for themselves and almost nothing for their clients after their 'fees' are taken out.

Really? 30 million 'settlements' where companies pony up rather than ten years of legal expenses fighting phony 'class action' claims...... and where the lawyers take 95% of the settlement in legal 'fees' and 'costs'......

Good for Gorsuch...and the OTHER FOUR who voted right.


t.
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This had nothing to do with ambulance chasing. Walmart was forcing workers to clock out but continue working, for example. It cost them, as it should have. Now the workers are going to have a harder time getting paid for work performed.
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Are you perhaps a class action lawyer?
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"Are you perhaps a class action lawyer? "

not tele...for sure


But ....there was too much abuse of the 'class action' lawsuits...extorting payments from companies left and right....often for teeny weeny violations.

Out in CA land - there are a dozens who go around triple checking for compliance. Is your sink 30 inches above the floor for ADA compliance? Only 29.8 inches! Lawsuit! Settlement for $10,000 to avoid big fines and penalties...... and the clearance from the toilet seat to the door at least 18 inches? Oops, only 17.9 inches! Lawsuit!...... and on and on and on...hundreds and hundreds of such 'class action' lawsuits by lawyers.......

It's costing businesses billions. Of course, you and I pay for it in higher prices. Go visit a doc and 1/3rd the 'fee' is for the doc insurance for the 'slip and fall' lawyers...even worse for brain surgeons and gynecologists...

The Walmart situation deserved to be heard....most of the other 'class action' lawsuits - probably don't....and shouldn't get through the court system.

When you do sign on to a company and ACCEPT their arbitration clause..that's it.....you have no recourse to 'class action' lawsuits again.......


t.
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This is a classic case of what you can expect from a conservative Supreme Court.

If ruling on Constitutional grounds makes it a Conservative Supreme Court then it's OK with me. What is your Constitutional argument against this decision? After all that is what the Supreme Court is supposed to do, Ginsburg aside.

Perhaps it didn't have enough of the Latina wisdom?
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<<Is this why you want a conservative Supreme Court?
To make it easier for corporations to screw over workers? Is that what America needs?
Individual workers CANNOT enforce their rights against their employers. They do not have the financial resources and staying power. This verdict ensures that they can be abused with impunity.>>



What the court did was to enforce the law as written by the Congress, laws going back to the 1950s.



What you wanted was for the Court to ignore the law as written by the Congress and write it to the taste of liberals.


You poor babies!



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<<This had nothing to do with ambulance chasing. Walmart was forcing workers to clock out but continue working, for example. It cost them, as it should have. Now the workers are going to have a harder time getting paid for work performed. >>


Shucks, around here we have legions of state and federal employees anxious to enforce wage and hour laws. Of course, no lawyer at all is required to file claims with those agencies.



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<<If ruling on Constitutional grounds makes it a Conservative Supreme Court then it's OK with me. What is your Constitutional argument against this decision? After all that is what the Supreme Court is supposed to do, Ginsburg aside.
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These decisions were made enforcing Federal law as written by the Congress. If you don't like the results, have the Congress change the law.



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Walmart was forcing workers to clock out but continue working...

That's the best talking point you can come up with?

Anyone who believes that will do two things: believe anything and vote for Bernie Sanders

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That's the best talking point you can come up with?

Anyone who believes that will do two things: believe anything and vote for Bernie Sanders


Bruce,
Walmart has lost/settled several lawsuits where it underpaid workers.
E.g:


The United States Labor Department announced yesterday that Wal-Mart Stores had agreed to pay $33.5 million in back wages plus interest to settle a federal lawsuit that accused the company of violating overtime laws involving 86,680 workers.


https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/26/business/26walmart.html

In many low-wage areas of the economy, wage theft is routine. And you think that is ok, I guess, or not worthy your attention.
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Walmart was forcing workers to clock out but continue working...
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That's the best talking point you can come up with?




You think that's not a valid point? Or not true?

Walmart Must Pay $151 Million To Employees Who Worked Off The Clock
https://consumerist.com/2016/04/04/10-years-after-verdict-wa...
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Walmart was forcing workers to clock out but continue working...
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Anyone who believes that will do two things: believe anything and vote for Bernie Sanders




I didn't vote for Bernie.
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Bruce,

I recently saw a meme on Facebook joking about Bernie Sanders. It had a picture of him looking as he usually does and read, "Never trust a man who brushes his hair with a balloon."


TMFEdyboom223
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In many low-wage areas of the economy, wage theft is routine. And you think that is ok, I guess, or not worthy your attention.

Nobody thinks that's ok. However, it's covered by other laws.
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Did you READ the article?


<<Department officials said many of the violations involved failing to pay time-and-a-half premium pay to managers in training, programmers in training and some other salaried, nonmanagerial employees when they worked more than 40 hours a week.

The department also accused Wal-Mart of violating the Fair Labor Standards Act, the federal law that governs overtime, by failing to properly include factors like bonuses and geographical differentials in calculating the base wages to determine the time-and-a-half rate.
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Seems that requiring people to clock out and continue working wasn't really the issue.


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<<You think that's not a valid point? Or not true?

Walmart Must Pay $151 Million To Employees Who Worked Off The Clock
https://consumerist.com/2016/04/04/10-years-after-verdict-wa...... >>


Again, you guys don't bother reading the article you cite.


The article describes highly technical matters in how the litigation and damages were determined.


It's not a simple matter of failing to pay people for working through breaks.



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