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German Engineering Yields New Warship That Isn’t Fit for Sea

New German frigate is a disaster. Like the f-35 or Littoral Combat Ship; it just doesn’t work. “Defense experts cite the warship’s buggy software and ill considered arsenal-as well as a starboard list.”
And this is the only defense SNAFU. “A contract to build a new helicopter hit snags, cost for a new rifle overran and an ambitious drone project never got off the ground.”

THen there is the infrastructure fiascos. The new Berlin airport is 10 years behind schedule as is the Stuttgart railway station.
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While the Germans have a long standing reputation for overcomplicating everything, the German weapons industry is clearly learning from their USian counterparts.

The Wiki entry says the lead ship of the class, due to continuing operational problems, has been returned to it's builders. In the US, the government would continue to throw money at the ships for several years, and end up eating a worthless hulk.

Steve
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New German frigate is a disaster. Like the f-35 or Littoral Combat Ship; it just doesn’t work. “Defense experts cite the warship’s buggy software and ill considered arsenal-as well as a starboard list.”

TJS

I had a long flowing reply complete with stories of NATO fleet 1982, the problems of the German frigate that was really designed for the somewhat enclosed North sea getting beaten up in the North Atlantic. Included stories of how much the German sailors loved our beer machine and would beg quarters to buy beer while doing cross pol, the problems they had with the lack of a helo and even pictures of topless Dutch sailors. Sadly my computer decided to do an update after a power blip and all was lost (Sob).

On wait, I managed to find the picture of the Dutch sailors oh and one of the burning tanker that I spent some time melting the soles of my boots on while dancing along the hull on a hoist. The intention was to deliver a 600 pound pump to help put the fires out but somehow some people ... well I hate to cast nasties on these people so I'll say they were a little too enthusiastic and I didn't want to crush them with the pump. I would however have happily crushed my inexperienced TACCO who was operating the hoist in an incompetent manner and ignoring my frantic signals! }};-@

Tim

https://www.google.ca/search?biw=1901&bih=929&tbm=is...

http://onzevloot.weebly.com/uploads/1/4/1/3/14135904/5782912...

http://www.seaking50.ca/Stories/Entries/2012/1/9_The_Rescue_...
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I worked for a Germany-based IT Services company here in the US for 14 months. It didn't take me long to realize that they were all talk and far from delivering quality solutions. We couldn't get customer references because we couldn't find a happy customer in the US.

I think there is a serious lack of true talent in Germany nowadays.

'38Packard
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I worked for a Germany-based IT Services company here in the US for 14 months. It didn't take me long to realize that they were all talk and far from delivering quality solutions. We couldn't get customer references because we couldn't find a happy customer in the US.

I think there is a serious lack of true talent in Germany nowadays.

'38Packard


I worked in IT (NATO AWACs program) in Germany for 13 years, the vast majority of the programmers were Dutch, Danes, Brits, Americans and even a Canuck or two. We had an Italian for awhile but he was untrainable even though he claimed to have had his own software company. One of the smartest programmers and my boss was actually Greek with a masters in Math from a Brit university. The absolute best programmer there was a former Danish dentist, a truly brilliant lady with a hilarious dry sense of humour.

Tim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_Air_Base_Geilenkirchen
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