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Since you don't know, I'll tell you.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020355060457435...

Under current law, taxpayers who lose an argument with the IRS can generally avoid penalties by showing they tried in good faith to comply with the tax law. In a broad range of circumstances, the health-care bill would change the law to impose strict liability penalties for income-tax underpayments, meaning that taxpayers will no longer have the luxury of making an honest mistake. The ability of even the IRS to waive penalties in sympathetic cases would be sharply curtailed.

The proposed changes in penalty rules have largely escaped notice because they are buried in a part of the bill that purports to deal with abusive tax shelters.
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What do IRS penalties have to do with health care? Exactly.

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What do IRS penalties have to do with health care? Exactly.

Funding, silly, or was that a rhetorical question?

For those who care, here's a link to a discussion of the provision on another board: http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=27912575&sort=who...

Phil
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Phil that WingNut has a political agenda - healthcare is just a means to an end.

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Phil that WingNut has a political agenda - healthcare is just a means to an end.

That's what I've been trying to tell ya. Health care is just a means for Obama to achieve total government control over our lives.

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Phil that WingNut has a political agenda - healthcare is just a means to an end.

Is that a case of the pot calling the kettle black? It's a shame this board has degenerated into so much name calling of late. People certainly have a right to disagree without such petty and mean-spirited remarks being thrown around. For pity sakes, friend, tone it down a little.

Regards ... Pixy
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Phil that WingNut has a political agenda - healthcare is just a means to an end.



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What's in the House health care bill?

Currently there are five bills in Congress to reform healthcare, three in the House and two in the Senate. The following is a reply from my congressman in regards to your question:

The House of Representatives is now considering the America's Affordable Health Choices Act (H.R. 3200), which presents comprehensive solutions to the healthcare challenges faced by all Americans. This bill includes many of my priorities, such as:



o Better healthcare for everyone by requiring all plans to meet minimum benefits standards, prohibiting denials of coverage based on pre-existing conditions and eliminating co-payments for preventive care visits to a doctor;

o Strengthening Medicare by increasing reimbursement rates for Medicare providers to allow them to continue seeing Medicare patients and closing the "donut" hole in prescription coverage for Medicare Part D;

o Real choice in a health insurance marketplace where consumers can compare different plans, including a public plan option, while still retaining the freedom to keep their current doctor, hospital and plan if they choose;

o Ensuring access to healthcare in rural areas by providing a reimbursement increase to primary care physicians practicing in these communities and expanding telemedicine services to make specialized care available for patients in underserved areas.



As a member of the Ways and Means Committee, I helped write parts of this bill, and I know that there is a lot in the bill that will go far toward improving our system. Although the full House of Representatives will not consider H.R. 3200 until September, I voted for this important legislation when it was considered by the Ways and Means Committee on July 17. We needed to advance this bill so that we can continue the work of crafting a comprehensive plan that will fix our healthcare system.



However, it is important to remember that this is the beginning of the process, and there is much work that remains to be done in both houses of Congress before we will reach a final bill. Nevertheless, there is wide agreement that the final version must satisfy these principles:



o Reduce the long-term growth of healthcare costs;

o Provide a choice of doctors and health plans;

o Improve quality of care and invest in prevention and wellness; and,

o Ensure affordable healthcare for all Americans.



Currently there are five bills in Congress to reform healthcare, three in the House and two in the Senate. From these, members of the House and Senate will reconcile differences, make improvements and come up with an even better bill. I think we have a long way to go before we are where we need to be, but H.R. 3200 is an important first step.



Healthcare touches all of our lives in a very personal way. I absolutely understand why so many Americans are concerned about the effectiveness and cost of healthcare. That's why it's so important that you judge the facts of this bill for yourself, particularly when there's been much disinformation. I have attached answers to the most common questions my office has been receiving for your review. Additionally, you can go to the Ways and Means Committee website (waysandmeans.house.gov) to read the bill in its entirety as well as a section-by-section summary. I will continue to update you as this important legislation progresses.


Question: Has Congressman Thompson read the bill?

Answer: I have read and was involved in drafting the bill I voted on. For weeks before the introduction of H.R. 3200, members of the Ways and Means Committee, myself included, met daily to go through the bill line by line and section by section. As a group, we spent 86 hours going over this legislation.



Question: Will health reform force all Americans out of their private insurance plans and into a one-size-fits-all government plan?

Answer: No. H.R. 3200 builds on the current system of employer-based coverage, it doesn't replace it. If you are happy with your current plan, you can keep it. H.R. 3200 includes a public plan that individuals will have the option of purchasing, along with a variety of other private plans. This public plan will be required to be financially self-sustaining, as private plans are, covering its costs through premiums and co-pays.



Question: Does page 16 of the bill require me to join the public plan if I lose my private insurance coverage?

Answer: No one will be required to join the public plan. If you lose your insurance, you will be able to shop for a new plan at an online exchange that includes information on all insurance options. This exchange will bring together information that is currently scattered giving consumers the opportunity to quickly and effectively compare plans to make informed decisions about what coverage works best for them. The provision on page 16 merely requires individuals joining a private insurance plan after 2013 to do so through the exchange.



Question: Are Members of Congress exempt from changes that are being proposed for the rest of the country?

Answer: No. Members of Congress receive the same healthcare options as other federal employees, with a choice of plans from private insurers that vary by benefits, premiums and co-pays. This legislation would affect federal employees in the same ways that it affects everyone else who gets their health insurance through their employer.



Question: Does this bill cover illegal immigrants?

Answer: No. Section 246 of H.R. 3200 explicitly prohibits the payment of affordability credits designed to help low and moderate incomes families purchase insurance to anyone who is not lawfully present in the United States.



Question: Does this bill require seniors to attend mandatory counseling sessions on euthanasia?

Answer: No. H.R. 3200 states that Medicare will reimburse doctors and nurse practitioners for a counseling session with Medicare beneficiaries regarding advanced care planning. This consultation includes a discussion of laws and options regarding living wills, the roles and responsibilities of a health care proxy and other planning resources that may be available for the individual. These consultations are strictly voluntary.



Question: Will all small businesses be forced to provide coverage to their employees?

Answer: This bill exempts small businesses with a payroll of less than $250,000 from the requirement to provide health insurance for their workers. Businesses with payrolls above $250,000 that do not provide coverage will be assessed a charge that will gradually increase with the size of their payroll. The current version of the bill has this charge starting at 2% for payrolls above $250,000 and increase to a maximum of 8% for payrolls above $400,000. These revenues will go to offset the cost of coverage for individuals purchasing insurance through the exchange. Small businesses that opt to offer insurance will receive tax credits to offset the cost of insurance.



Question: What does this bill do to stop fraud and abuse in Medicare?

Answer: This bill strengthens existing compliance and enforcement tools for Medicare, increases funding to support these efforts and creates new, tougher penalties for individuals who submit false claims or applications to Medicare. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has estimated that every $1 we invest in fighting waste, fraud and abuse will yield $1.75 in savings.



Question: Can our nation afford healthcare reform?

Answer: The truth is that the rising cost of healthcare for all Americans is a problem that will not fix itself and that we can't afford to not address. Today, we spend one out of every $6 we earn on healthcare. If we don't take action to slow the increase in costs, within a decade we will spend one out of every $5 on healthcare, and within 30 years this will rise to one in every $3. These facts make it clear, the longer we wait, the more it will cost to fix our broken healthcare system.



Question: How much will this bill cost?

Answer: There is no question that there will be significant costs to implement this legislation. The CBO's latest estimate puts the price tag at $1.042 trillion over ten years. Here is how we are going to pay for the bill. First, we are going to address inefficiencies in Medicare and Medicaid and crack down on fraud, waste and abuse in these programs to save $465 billion over the next ten years. Second, we will need to raise $583 billion in revenues to cover the rest of the cost. The Ways and Means Committee proposes to do this through a surcharge on the wealthiest 1.2% of income earners, who have enjoyed a tremendous advantage for the last eight years because of the Bush tax cuts (the average reduction in federal taxes for the top 1% in these tax cuts was $44,622). The Senate is considering other ways to raise these funds, and it is unclear how this issue will be dealt with in the final bill.



Question: Will this plan lead to rationing of healthcare? Will Congress be legislating what care my doctor can or must give me?

Answer: No. I believe that medical decisions should be left between patients and their doctors. Section 1401 explicitly forbids any studies or research called for in H.R. 3200 from being used to either mandate or deny care to a patient in any public or private plan. This research will gather data about what procedures are most effective to give doctors more information to consider when treating patients, not to replace your doctor's judgment with that of a bureaucrat from a private insurer or the government. The bill protects the ability of doctors to do what they think is necessary to help their patients without having to constantly worry about whether they will be reimbursed by an insurance company, which is why this bill has earned the strong support of the American Medical Association.



Question: Why is this bill being "rushed" through Congress?

Answer: Universal healthcare was first proposed by Teddy Roosevelt in 1912. President Harry Truman called for it in 1945. Former Representative John Dingell Sr. introduced a bill to provide universal healthcare in 1947 and his son, Representative John Dingell Jr., has reintroduced a bill every Congress since 1955. So, this is not a new issue and it was supported by both President Obama and Senator McCain in the November presidential election. There have been over 40 congressional hearings on healthcare reform since January. This particular legislation has been crafted, reviewed and revised repeatedly since the 111th Congress began, and it has been changed to reflect the considerable input from those in the healthcare community, members on both sides of the aisle and constituents. This bill is not being rushed - it is long overdue.




Sincerely,

MIKE THOMPSON
Member of Congress
http://www.mikethompson.house.gov

You cannot reply to this email. If you would like to email me, please visit
http://mikethompson.house.gov/contact/email.shtml
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mendomann posts,

Currently there are five bills in Congress to reform healthcare, three in the House and two in the Senate. The following is a reply from my congressman in regards to your question:

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Clear, concise, and factual.

Why can't the right-wingers meet these same standards?

intercst
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intercst asks:
Clear, concise, and factual. Why can't the right-wingers meet these same standards?

Because they're mentally, emotionally, psychologically and intellectually FUBAR? The temsike solution: put 'em all in Gitmo and let those Gitmo guys do what the do best. <grin>.

The right-wingers are the (sub)human equivalent of mules. Mules understand only one thing. PAIN. Physical PAIN.
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Question: Has Congressman Thompson read the bill?

Answer: I have read and was involved in drafting the bill I voted on. For weeks before the introduction of H.R. 3200, members of the Ways and Means Committee, myself included, met daily to go through the bill line by line and section by section. As a group, we spent 86 hours going over this legislation.


I hope staff was spending a lot more time than that.

I spent the summer of 1994 going through Hillarycare and the Republican counterproposal. We spent many 12 hour days poring over things, and all we were looking at and talking about was implementation issues of the tax provisions. Zip on policy. A recurring comment: "Thank God we don't work at HHS."

I highly recommend the September issue of the Atlantic. There's a long essay about health care reform, with tons of food for thought.

Phil
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The right-wingers are the (sub)human equivalent of mules. Mules understand only one thing. PAIN. Physical PAIN.



Mules everywhere are offended.



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What he doesn't tell you

"o Better healthcare for everyone by requiring all plans to meet minimum benefits standards, prohibiting denials of coverage based on pre-existing conditions and eliminating co-payments for preventive care visits to a doctor;

Great....but that means ALL plans are going up in cost, not down. If your plan suddenly has to cover high risk people, no exclusions, it means the costs for your plan are going nowhere but UP.

if you eliminate co-pays - well, duh! Just who do you think is going to pay for 'pre paid' health care? Like oil changes in your car? if you get $100-300 a year in 'no copays', then your policy is going up by $100-300 per year. It is merely then 'pre paid health care', and the ones who use it the most will benefit the most.



o Strengthening Medicare by increasing reimbursement rates for Medicare providers to allow them to continue seeing Medicare patients and closing the "donut" hole in prescription coverage for Medicare Part D;

Great..they did a deal with the drug companies to chop 50% off drug costs in the donut hole. In exchange, they gave the drug companies the right to buy off other drug companies who could, but won't if they are paid off, produce generics. They also gave the drug companies the right to enforce no importation of drugs.

That runs up drug costs....duh!.....but of course, your plan will pay the higher costs, and medicare will pay the higher costs - but, smaller donut hole to buy off the senior vote!

But wait! You heard Obama say he will chop 500-800 billion out of Medicare to pay for the care for the 'uninsured'. How can they increase re-imbursements, when Obama said they will 'bring costs in line'???? (ie, chop payment)??????

Ah, Obama talks out of both sides of mouth......



o<> Real choice in a health insurance marketplace where consumers can compare different plans, including a public plan option, while still retaining the freedom to keep their current<b? doctor, hospital and plan if they choose;


Read those words carefully!

If you now have 3 docs, say a GP, a cardiologist, an allergist...well, you are OUT OF LUCK.

Under Obama Care, every plan must be 'qualified'. That means YOUR plan within five years or sooner. Period. If it still exists.

That means you will have a "Medical Home". Only your one , repeat, one doctor, can give you a referral to other doctors. Otherwise, your insurance won't cover it!...... You can't call up your allergist or heart doc. You must call your GP, get a referral, if he isn't over his/her quota, then after you get a referral, visit your 'specialist'.

You did read that carefully, right? The part about every plan, including yours, must have a Medical home?










Question: Does this bill cover illegal immigrants?

Answer: No. Section 246 of H.R. 3200 explicitly prohibits the payment of affordability credits designed to help low and moderate incomes families purchase insurance to anyone who is not lawfully present in the United States.


And other section states that it will be ILLEGAL for you to check the status of anyone seeking healthcare.

Essentially, since you cannot legally check the immigration status of someone, there is no way to deny medical care to illegals. If you are 'here' you get healthcare. Just sign up for it. No one can ask you if you are legal. No income? NO problem! free healthcare for you and your family!

Not only that, but if you need an interpreter, one will be provided to you 24/7 by Obama Care (paid for by the tax payer).

You did read the bill, right?




as intercst noted - quite clear on the intent. And details. Now, why would he want to give up so much for so little?

t.
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